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What must I do to be saved from Godís wrath and be made acceptable to Him?
Bible | 2012 | BibleTruth

Posted on 01/29/2012 7:19:24 PM PST by bibletruth

What must I do to be saved from God’s wrath and be made acceptable to Him? Is it good works that saves? Is it God that saves?

Galatians 2:16 ...for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: freegift; gracesalvation; vanity; workssalvation; yopios
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Nothing is required on our part to receive the saving grace of God today. You need not perform any good work - nothing! But God must do something - and He did that through Christ Jesus.

God has provided a way for anyone to be saved from God's wrath in Revelation and it has nothing to do with your own good works. The way - as the early Christians were called - is by believing in what Jesus Christ has accomplished for you on the cross which He died for all sins past, sins present, sins future to 30AD. For by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. (Galatians 2:16)

The shed blood of Christ paid for your debt of sin which no amount of good works could even begin to pay for such debt. Christ had willingly suffered the determinate council of God’s wrath on the cross as Redeemer for us, even though He did not deserve such suffering - for He was completely righteous and completely without sin. Because of this, God can now freely offer you and me forgiveness and justification from all sin past, sin percent to the cross, and sin future to 30AD. God is absolutely just in offering you His righteousness and justification for your sins have been fully paid for by the blood of Christ - nothing to perform to be saved except to have faith in this finished and fully paid for cross work of Christ.

Please, be reconciled to God by trusting in what Christ has done for you, and put your belief in His blood to pay for every sin, now and in the future. All the work is done; just believe.

In James 2:17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. this verse DOES NOT NEGATE what is clearly said in Romans 3:21-26, 4:2, Galatians 2:16. Anyone who used this verse to "try" to NEGATE Romans 3:21-26, 4:2, Galatians 2:16, is clearly failing to understand the purpose and audience for which James wrote. If James NEGATES Romans and Galatians, then someone has made God be be a liar in the Scriptures...but it is not God nor His holy men who lied... Now read the truths of faith without works salvation as proved in Romans and Galatians:

Romans 3:21-26 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Galatians 2:16: Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 4:2: For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

1 posted on 01/29/2012 7:19:35 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Don’t eat the grapes? Maybe it’s an apple. Just stay away from fruit altogether.


2 posted on 01/29/2012 7:22:21 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: All

The way to be assured of going to Heaven when one dies is simply to trust in Jesus Christ alone for one’s eternal salvation. Accept Jesus Christ as one’s only Savior. Faith alone in Christ alone.

He is eternal God, the second Person of the Trinity, who became incarnate. Without ceasing to be God, He took on Himself true humanity. He did this in order to die on the cross in payment for our sins.

As He hung on the cross, our sins were judicially imputed or ascribed to Him. Our sins were poured out on Him and judged by God the Father. Jesus Christ paid the penalty for our sins.

The Bible tells us to accept Jesus Christ’s finished work on the cross (His substitutionary atonement in payment for our sins) as the only way of salvation.

It’s worthless to rely instead on our own works (or a mix of faith and works) to save us.

John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He (God the Father) has made Him (Jesus Christ) to be sin for us (He was judged for our sins, He died as a substitute for us), who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.

John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He who believes on him is not condemned: but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 6:47
(Jesus Christ said) He who believes in me has everlasting life.

John 10:28-30
I give them eternal life and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.

Acts 4:12
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.

Acts 16:31
Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved...

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you are saved through faith and this is not from you, it is the gift of God. It is not from works, so no one may boast.

1 John 5:11-12
God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Acts 10:43
Every one who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.

Romans 4:7-8
Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.

John 11:25-26
(Jesus Christ said) I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?


3 posted on 01/29/2012 7:31:42 PM PST by onthelookout777
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To: All

Jesus Christ in His own words:

“I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.”
John 6:35

“I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:12

“I am the gate; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.”
John 10:9

“I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for His sheep.”
John 10:11

“I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies.”
John 11:25

“I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.”
John 14:6

“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.”
John 15:1

“Truly, Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”
John 8:58

“But what about you?” he (Jesus) asked. “Who do you say I am?”
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.”
Matthew 16:13-17


4 posted on 01/29/2012 7:33:49 PM PST by onthelookout777
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To: edpc

Actually, I don’t think the forbidden fruit was the apple; I think it was the pomegranate, or something just like it. Why? God’s use of that fruit, of all things, in the design of the Priest’s robes:

Exo 28:33 And beneath upon the hem of it thou shalt make pomegranates of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, round about the hem thereof; and bells of gold between them round about:
Exo 28:34 A golden bell and a pomegranate, a golden bell and a pomegranate, upon the hem of the robe round about.

Exo 39:25 And they made bells of pure gold, and put the bells between the pomegranates upon the hem of the robe, round about between the pomegranates;
Exo 39:26 A bell and a pomegranate, a bell and a pomegranate, round about the hem of the robe to minister in; as the LORD commanded Moses.

And for what reason would God do that? So that the priests would always be reminded of the original cause of the sin of disobedience and the fall of humanity. IMHO.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 7:39:34 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: onthelookout777

What you must do is, confess your sins,to God, and ask forgivness in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 7:40:27 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: bibletruth
You need not perform any good work - nothing!

That is horrible advice and equally horrible theology.

7 posted on 01/29/2012 7:40:27 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: bibletruth

You need not do any good work? What?

Aren’t we supposed to be G-d’s partners in making the world a better place and not just worry about salvation?

I’m glad I converted to Judaism because we are supposed to work together as G-d’s partners,not worry about the next life.

I’m not worried about going to hell,either.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 7:41:37 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: DNA.2012

As a Jew I find that deplorable. It’s the total opposite of what HaShem wants of us.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 7:43:55 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: bibletruth

If you can’t forgive how can you expect G-d to forgive you? In your daily life as you come in contact with people who do you wrong are you able to forgive their trespass? Of course believing in Yashua as your Savior is the main thing; to be reconciled with G-d. I am not a theologian. I just believe.


10 posted on 01/29/2012 7:49:12 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: onthelookout777

Amen to all you said. When I initially responded to your post I got sidetracked. What I intended to say was that God’s free gift of Eternal Salvation through faith in Jesus Christ is so enormously generous and wonderful as to defy description. I think Paul’s statement in 2nd Corinthians Chapter 9 may be the UNDERSTATEMENT of the Ages, seeing that the gift is eternal, never-ending joy and bliss in God’s perfect FOREVER in a brand new Universe wherin there has never been any sin.

2nd Corinthians 9:15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.

2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


11 posted on 01/29/2012 7:50:52 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: DNA.2012
Galatians 2:16: Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 4:2: For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

You just called God a liar ... considering that God said that we are saved and justified by the faith of Christ and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

The reference I made regarding 'you need not perform any good work [for salvation] is completely Biblical. Try reading God's Word before you accuse a believer-saint of falsely advising horrible theology. God is not a liar. Man is a liar.

12 posted on 01/29/2012 7:52:27 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Tucker39
Take a trip to Eden and explore what grows there:

Adji Chay, Iran.

Hurry, as many are eager to turn Iran - including the original Eden - into a nuclear wasteland.

13 posted on 01/29/2012 7:52:38 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: bibletruth

If it’s all so obvious then who do we have to put up with the daily threads on the subject?


14 posted on 01/29/2012 7:53:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bibletruth

My post was in regards to the advice and theology that you put forth, in your own words.

You are not God.

It is instantly clear that you believe yourself to be some sort of direct conduit, and the falseness of that belief is equally apparent.

So I leave you to yourself, that I may converse with the sane.


15 posted on 01/29/2012 7:58:25 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: c-b 1

“What you must do is, confess your sins,to God, and ask forgivness in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

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Private confession of one’s sins to God is extremely important in order for the Christian to maintain fellowship with God.

I John 1:9 (”If we confess our sins...”) is addressed to those who are already Christians.

Confession of sin is not, however, the criterion for receiving the free gift of eternal salvation.

The Biblical criterion for receiving the free gift of eternal salvation is faith alone in Christ alone.

The following verses tell us how to be saved. Confession of sin isn’t mentioned:

John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVES in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He who BELIEVES on him is not condemned: but he who does not BELIEVE is condemned already, because he has not BELIEVED in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 6:47
(Jesus Christ said) He who BELIEVES in me has everlasting life.

Acts 16:31
BELIEVE in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved

Acts 10:43
Every one who BELIEVES in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.

John 11:25-26
(Jesus Christ said) I am the resurrection and the life. He who BELIEVES in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and BELIEVES in me will never die. Do you BELIEVE this?


16 posted on 01/29/2012 7:58:45 PM PST by onthelookout777
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
"deplorable"

The horrible advice / horrible theology of the original poster

or

my rebuke of that horrible advice / horrible theology?

17 posted on 01/29/2012 8:02:45 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Tucker39

” . . .the original cause of the sin of disobedience and the fall of humanity.” ???????????????

I doubt the dumb fruit caused sin. A little more reflection could be useful.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:02 PM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: DNA.2012

The horrible advice/theology is what I meant.


19 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:30 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Great.

If you can explain why to the original poster, all the better.


20 posted on 01/29/2012 8:05:48 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: edpc

If we can’t agree if it was a apple, an pomegranate or grapes, which fruit appears on the first page of the Holy Book (or maybe the second, I dunno, I haven’t read it myself), then how can we agree on anything else?


21 posted on 01/29/2012 8:06:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: DNA.2012

Well,I hope he/she understood my statements about being G-d’s partner in making the world a better place. It’s not just a Jewish idea.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 8:13:42 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: DNA.2012
DNA.2012 quote: You are not God. If I quote God's Word ... do you then accuser me of being a liar or an enemy?

Galatians 4:16: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

23 posted on 01/29/2012 8:13:54 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Tucker39

You make a very interesting point about the use of pomegranate imagery in the priestly garments. Thanks.

I’ve also wondered if the use of palm tree imagery in the Temple might be a hint that the Tree of Life is/was some sort of palm tree.

1 Kings 6:32
So he made two doors of olive wood, and he carved on them carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold; and he spread the gold on the cherubim and on the palm trees.

1 Kings 6:35
He carved on it cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; and he overlaid them with gold evenly applied on the engraved work.

1 Kings 7:36
He engraved on the plates of its stays and on its borders, cherubim, lions and palm trees, according to the clear space on each, with wreaths all around.

2 Chronicles 3:5
He overlaid the main room with cypress wood and overlaid it with fine gold, and ornamented it with palm trees and chains.


24 posted on 01/29/2012 8:23:19 PM PST by onthelookout777
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
After we are saved by faith in Christ Jesus we are then given good works to perform - but these works have nothing to do in regards to our salvation. Good work are not the cause of our salvation.

Rather, as we read in Ephesians 2:10: For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

God ordained good works that we should walk in them, which is our reasonable service out of the love we have for Him. I hope that helps to clarify.

25 posted on 01/29/2012 8:25:22 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

One suspects that from all these daily quotes on JimRob’s hard disks, you could assemble the complete Holy Bible, or at the very least the Book of Mormon!


26 posted on 01/29/2012 8:26:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

to #14
The salvation question is important to followers of Christ
because we are told to spread the Gospel.

Some make it harder than others.

I always think of the guy on the cross next to Jesus whose only “work” was to believe.


27 posted on 01/29/2012 8:27:43 PM PST by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: bibletruth

As the old saying goes “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”.


28 posted on 01/29/2012 8:29:00 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a second party.)
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To: anathemized

And I always think of the scoundrels who spend their lives hurting others, and I am told by some here that IF on their death beds they declare “to believe” then they will be saved. Why then be good?


29 posted on 01/29/2012 8:31:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bibletruth

“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” Romans 10:9


30 posted on 01/29/2012 8:35:24 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Terry Mross
I am saved by the grace of God and the free gift of eternal salvation in heaven... I have been sealed with by the Holy Spirit of promise which is my inheritance in heaven...

Galatians 2:16: Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Hell is reserved for those who "for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified"

Ephesians 1:13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:14: Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

To whom do you apply this old saying: “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”

31 posted on 01/29/2012 8:37:38 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: ReformationFan
I Corinthians 1:21: For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
32 posted on 01/29/2012 8:39:42 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Revolting cat!

saying you believe but not believing will not fool God.


33 posted on 01/29/2012 8:58:24 PM PST by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: bibletruth

Come home to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.


34 posted on 01/29/2012 9:01:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Catholics Come Home to the Grace that Paul Preached

The Apostle Paul is the minister to the Gentiles, which is all of us, and God and Christ Jesus appointed Paul this minister to the Gentiles to preach the Grace of God and Salvation without works of the Law. Even the Jewish Apostle Peter warned that we all should heed and follow our beloved brother Paul in all the wisdom give unto him:

The Apostle Peter writes - II Peter 3:15: And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

The Apostle Paul writes - Romans 2:16: In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Peter never wrote to men that we are judged by Jesus Christ according to Peter's gospel - this Gospel was commissioned to Paul by Christ Jesus and God the Father. Heed God's Word and believe the Gospel of Grace which Paul is the minister to us Gentiles.

But what do we find Peter writing:

II Peter 3:15: And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
II Peter 3:16: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

God desires that all who have put their faith in Christ KNOW that they have eternal life In Christ. The Bible declares by God's Word that there is NO CONDEMNATION to the believer who has the faith of Christ and believes in Christ Jesus's cross and resurrection [Romans 8:1]. The most important thing to know is that we are saved the very second we have put our trust in Christ. This is what God says, not what any man says: neither are we destined for purgatory - rather, we are 100% certain that we will be in heaven just as Christ Jesus is in heaven with the Father. But our destination is even more secure than that, for the Apostle Paul writes that we ALREADY have all the heavenly blessings in Christ [Eph 1:3].

Ephesians 1:3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

35 posted on 01/29/2012 9:17:02 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Tucker39
-- pomegranate --

Now that is a very interesting observation!

36 posted on 01/29/2012 9:22:59 PM PST by imardmd1 (Ps. 107:2 Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the Enemy ...)
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To: bibletruth

‘So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”’ Acts 16:31


37 posted on 01/29/2012 9:25:58 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: anathemized
saying you believe but not believing will not fool God.

You're dodging. What if Bin Laden had said he believed and he really believed?

38 posted on 01/29/2012 9:29:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Tucker39

Interesting observation.

Linnaeus originally gave the pomegranate the scientific name of Punica malus

malus in latin = evil /bad /wicked
The scientific name was later changed .

People today pretty much think that scientist don’t believe in the Bible ... Linnaeus set up the modern classification system according to it’s kind because HE DID BELIEVE in the written word.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 9:42:04 PM PST by Lera
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To: c-b 1
You are so wrong it pains me. What some of you don't understand is that sin has nothing to do with it. Christ died for the sins of the world. That my friend is every sin you ever did and every sin you are going to do. Your sin was nailed up on that cross but that is not good enough for you, you want to ask God to forgive you again. That is saying to God, what your Son did in just not enough for me, I want to keep on asking you to forgive me (that is a work, by the way) we are not saved by works but by faith. Evidently you need more faith. It's almost as if you are being insulting to God by not accepting what his Son did for you. Catholics will have a problem with what I say here but then they have Rome, we only have the Lord. When the day comes, you will not be asked anything about sin but "what did you do about my Sons sacrifice for you".
40 posted on 01/29/2012 9:51:53 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: Revolting cat!

Revolting cat!

I trust in the Lord, He certainly calls only the evil to salvation as we all sinners.

The bible shows examples such as David and Paul doing evil and going on to be used by God to help bring blessings.

I look forward to responding again if needed in the morning.


41 posted on 01/29/2012 9:57:44 PM PST by anathemized (cursed by some, blessed in Jesus)
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To: DNA.2012
You are either a Catholic or just short on Bible doctrine. (redundant statement) Bibletruth is dead on. You have been reading James, John, Jude etc. But they preached the Kingdom to Jews of that day. Paul was sent to the Church or The Bride of Christ. Jew vs. Gentiles, Law vs. grace, Kingdom vs. Church. You have to know who the apostles were talking to. Even Christ himself preached the Law up to his death , yet we know that we are not under the law today. Something happened and you can find the answer in the Book of Acts.
42 posted on 01/29/2012 10:01:14 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: anathemized

It is not a flame, and my question stands, and it derives from personal (not so positive) experiences: why be good?


43 posted on 01/29/2012 10:02:48 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

“What if Bin Laden had said he believed and he really believed?”

In my book he would be saved then. Just like the thief on the cross. Or some death-row murder that has a conversion experience one-day/one-month/one year before execution. Or me, that did/does plenty of sinning still.

And part of my sinning includes thinking “well THAT can’t be right if Bin Laden at the last moment converts and gets all the glories in Heaven ....” (Although I doubt that happened).


44 posted on 01/29/2012 10:03:14 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: Revolting cat!

Being good comes with the territory. If you have sincere faith in Christ, then you will be good. It’s a great 2 for 1 deal. But only the faith is required.


45 posted on 01/29/2012 10:31:01 PM PST by bramps (Hypocrites in High Places)
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To: fish hawk
You are either a Catholic or just short on Bible doctrine (redundant statement)

That is blatant Catholic-bashing.

we know that we are not under the law today

I agree with that completely.

But nothing in what I wrote contends otherwise.

You can find the answer in the Book of Acts.

I am very familiar with Acts 15.

46 posted on 01/29/2012 11:39:39 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Revolting cat!
why be good?

Great question.

Answer: there is more value in being good than in being bad.

47 posted on 01/29/2012 11:41:39 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

But you are incapable of understanding that God and Christ Jesus appointed and commissioned Paul to be the primary apostle to preach to the Gentiles - see and study Acts 9; Acts 22:3-21, especially verse 10,13-14,21; Acts 26:12-23, especially verse 16,17,18,20; Romans 16:25-26; Galatians 2:6-8; 2 Tim 2:15 for all these evidence of truths which you formerly labeled corrupt theology. Contrariwise sir, you who seem to be somewhat, what specific Bible doctrines do you promulgate? I have laid bare the truths of God’s Word which I count precious in the sight of God; what be your personal beliefs?


48 posted on 01/30/2012 12:22:09 AM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Don’t post to me.

I’ll debate others instead.


49 posted on 01/30/2012 12:32:36 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Revolting cat!
If we can’t agree if it was a apple, an pomegranate or grapes, which fruit appears on the first page of the Holy Book (or maybe the second, I dunno, I haven’t read it myself), then how can we agree on anything else?

What the fruit was does not seem to matter. The sin is not in the fruit or any part of the tree. The sin is in the choice to disobey and carrying it out. Eve was deceived -- Adam was not. He made a deliberated choice. This is pretty deep how and why. Suggest we just leave it there for now ---

50 posted on 01/30/2012 12:47:26 AM PST by imardmd1 (Ps. 107:2 Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the Enemy ...)
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