Posted on 02/15/2012 6:46:47 AM PST by marshmallow
Insisting that it is “dangerous” and “wrong” for women not to have access to contraceptives free of charge, the White House press secretary asserted that the US bishops “never supported health reform to begin with”--prompting a rebuttal from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
During the February 13 White House press briefing, Press Secretary Jay Carney was asked a lengthy question:
On Friday, you seemed pretty satisfied that the contraception issue had been settled and you wanted to move on. But the bishops put out a statement saying that it still raises serious moral concerns, and said the President's plan "continues to involve needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions." As you know, there's also legislation in the Senate. One would allow any employer to raise a conscience objection to the contraceptive issue. Another one is broader -- even raise conscience objections to any aspect of the rule at all. Is this issue settled? Are you going to be able to move forward? The bishops have control of the pulpit, so to speak, and they have been talking against it.
Carney replied that
the organizations that will be most affected by this -- Catholic Charities and the Catholic Health Association -- have expressed their support for this policy, and we obviously appreciate that.
Now, we never set out with the assumption that everyone would be satisfied with this balanced approach, with this what we believe -- approach that ensures that women get -- all women, no matter where they work, get the preventive services they deserve and need, and that religious liberties are accommodated. And I would simply note with regard to the bishops that they never supported health care reform to begin with, of which this is an important element.
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Years of episcopal weakness and inaction are now being punished.
> Years of episcopal weakness and inaction are now being punished.
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
0bama0 will again garner the overwhelming majority of Catholic votes in the elections.
Count on it.
Catholics are not afraid of church discipline, because it never happens.
Pelosi and Biden are still allowed to take communion in spite of having given the Church the single digit salute.
Please give an objective, numerical definition of this term.
Liar.
Part of the reasons the bishops are in a weak position is that they have been in bed with the evil one leading this country on health care reform.
Catholic Charities does good work but is essentially a branch of the federal government. IMHO it should be suppressed and replaced by a (much smaller) organization that is financed by the faithful and is true to the mission of the church.
The Catholic Health Association is an openly heretical organization led by an open heretic.
the Church needs to rein in....and I do mean, REIN IN on ANYBODY using the word “Catholic” who is not in agreement with basic Church doctrines. (the same way that you can’t just use the word “Olympics” or “Super Bowl” at your whim).
And yes, by that I do mean a threat of excommunication from Pope Benedict direct to Sister Mary Jane Hospital Association.
Liar.
Part of the reasons the bishops are in a weak position is that they have been in bed with the evil one leading this country on health care reform.
Catholic Charities does good work but is essentially a branch of the federal government. IMHO it should be suppressed and replaced by a (much smaller) organization that is financed by the faithful and is true to the mission of the church.
The Catholic Health Association is an openly heretical organization led by an open heretic.
Sorry for the double post folks - iphone spasm strikes again. :-(
Those who don’t learn from history...
For centuries religious leaders have kowtowed to oppressive governments hoping for their liberties to be spared. The result is always the same.
54%. That is the percentage of the Catholic vote Obama got in 2008. While not "overwhelming majority", the poster is right that Obama will likely win a majority again. Perhaps not white Catholics, but the rapid growth of the Hispanic Catholic voting block will almost certain insure Hussein wins the Catholic vote yet again.
These organizations will not get a cent from me anymore.
——You ain’t seen nothing yet.
0bama0 will again garner the overwhelming majority of Catholic votes in the elections.
Count on it.
Catholics are not afraid of church discipline, because it never happens.
Pelosi and Biden are still allowed to take communion in spite of having given the Church the single digit salute.——
All of this reminds me that the Church thrives where it is persecuted, and vice versa.
I wish it didn’t have to be this way.
The coming persecution will purify and strengthen the Church.
About twenty years ago I was talking to a couple of old-school nuns, who were my friend’s aunts (it was fun to see them off-duty). They both told me that the Church would have to get smaller, and that We would be better off. Those old-school sisters were wise.
the poster is right that Obama will likely win a majority again.
No ... the poster is neither right nor wrong. The poster has made a prediction; stated an opinion. So have you.
That's nice ...
But opinions are like noses.
I completely agree. It’s never too late but there’s a lot of work for the American bishops to do. They have already started cleaning out the seminaries. Now it’s time to stop being business men and start being shepherds.
I completely agree. It’s never too late but there’s a lot of work for the American bishops to do. They have already started cleaning out the seminaries. Now it’s time to stop being business men and start being shepherds.
Indeed. Catholic Charities and CHA have long been hotbeds of dissent.
Liar, is the kindest term one can use about Carney. Any visit to the USCCB website will show the Bishops support some form of health care reform. They withdrew their support for Obamacare because of concerns over abortion and artificial birth control.
“The coming persecution will purify and strengthen the Church.”
But it will also help to spread the good news of the Gospel as well.
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