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To: Alamo-Girl; exDemMom; metmom
We are not all "Young Earth Creationists."

Thank you, Alamo-Girl for the ping and for expressing your endorsement of at least some of my views.

It’s true, I think, that in attempting to fold 14 Billion years (or 7 Billion years, or 3.5 Billion years, or whatever it may be) into ten thousand years (or six thousand years), those Christians who have chosen to identify themselves with a YEC scientific explanation of God’s creation, have selected a very steep and high mountain to surmount, but I wish them every success for I understand that their theories about the duration of God’s creation is secondary to the knowledge of the salvation of Christ and of God’s love (and that He is The Creator), these being understandings we all share, and it may be that Alamo-girl’s forays into Relativity and Inflationary Theory might serve as their answer. As always in science, theories are subject to further discovery (or so I am told).

And exDemMom, please forgive me for disagreeing, but in your schooling of metmom on the meaning of Philosophy, I believe you commit a fundamental error in equating the gathering of information (the primary task of Science) with wisdom. Wisdom is so very much more than that.

479 posted on 03/08/2012 5:02:00 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS
I join with you in wishing success to all our fellow Creationists though we may not yet have a consensus understanding of the issues involved - for ultimately, as you say, such thoughts are "secondary to the knowledge of the salvation of Christ and of God’s love (and that He is The Creator)"

Praise God!!!

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear YHAOS!

486 posted on 03/08/2012 9:08:51 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: YHAOS
And exDemMom, please forgive me for disagreeing, but in your schooling of metmom on the meaning of Philosophy, I believe you commit a fundamental error in equating the gathering of information (the primary task of Science) with wisdom. Wisdom is so very much more than that.

If you will go back and read metmom's posts that I was responding to, you will see that I gave an appropriate response. She essentially said that PhDs should not be granted to scientists, I guess because (for the most part), we don't delve into the existentialist nonsense that is typical of the subject philosophy. The PhD degree and the subject of philosophy use two different meanings of the word "philosophy".

As for your assertion that science is merely about the gathering of information: it is MUCH more than that. It doesn't take a PhD to gather information; it doesn't even take a person. But to analyze and understand that information, to place it within the context of a greater body of knowledge, to use that information to make predictions about other information which is currently unknown, and then to design the appropriate experiments to gain that new information--that takes a certain kind of thinking. There is both knowledge and wisdom--both meanings of the Greek word sophos--involved.

506 posted on 03/10/2012 3:22:52 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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