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Archdiocese of Washington reprimands priest for denying communion to a lesbian
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archdiocese-of-washington-reprimands-priest-for-denying-communion-to-a-lesb ^ | 2/29/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 02/29/2012 6:08:22 PM PST by Morgana

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To: upchuck; Morgana
I am Catholic and I am with you 100%! I am so ticked off at the diocease to rebuke this priest who is trying to protect the sanctity of the sacrament. (The archdiocease is leading the people down the wrong path...)

Certainly Christ spoke of those who lead the faithful astray.

I spent some time tonight talking to my religous ed. students about this very subject. Most of these young 8th graders were of the opinion that the church needs to change its doctrine of 2000 years. I said that it's precisely because the doctrine is 2000 years strong that it remains.

21 posted on 02/29/2012 6:59:54 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: upchuck; Morgana
I am Catholic and I am with you 100%! I am so ticked off at the diocease to rebuke this priest who is trying to protect the sanctity of the sacrament. (The archdiocease is leading the people down the wrong path...)

Certainly Christ spoke of those who lead the faithful astray.

I spent some time tonight talking to my religous ed. students about this very subject. Most of these young 8th graders were of the opinion that the church needs to change its doctrine of 2000 years. I said that it's precisely because the doctrine is 2000 years strong that it remains.

22 posted on 02/29/2012 7:01:49 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Morgana

If you want to be a “Cafeteria Catholic,” there are plenty of “buffets” out there you can find to fit *your* beliefs.

(Probably even ones where you can burn the Bible & they’ll welcome you with open arms...)


23 posted on 02/29/2012 7:03:56 PM PST by mikrofon (Church BUMP)
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To: Morgana

““When in doubt, give it out,” Msgr. Pope said.”

IT? Has it really come down to this? IT? The Holy Eucharist is an “IT” that should just be given out like a Halloween trick or treat candy?

This extraordinarily offensive from a “Monsigneur.” What happened to the “IT” being the body and blood of Christ?


24 posted on 02/29/2012 7:06:56 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: turn_to
In order to receive communion you need to be in a state of grace. (In other words knowingly not violating the doctrine of the church.) Knowing that she is practicing a lifestyle that is not consistent with the doctrine of the church she should have sought a priest for confession before receiving communion.

Her doing so without receiving absolution is a grave sin against God and the sacrament of the Eucharist. (Communion)

25 posted on 02/29/2012 7:08:27 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Morgana
It's tough to deny someone communion at her own mother's funeral Mass. It's also tough to deny someone communion publicly, at the altar rail. Combine the two, and it certainly would be difficult.

But a passage in the body of this article clarifies the matter and puts a whole different light on it:

Fr. Guarnizo may have been forcibly denied the opportunity to expand on his conversation. A commenter on Deacon Greg Kandra’s blog, who claimed to have been “in a meeting with Fr Marcel and heard the whole story,” wrote: “The woman in question brought her lesbian partner into the vesting sacristy just before the funeral Mass and made sure to introduce her partner to Fr. Marcel, introducing her as her ‘lover’. He told her then that she should not present herself for Communion.” A commenter claimed Barbara’s partner “blocked his way out of the sacristy when he attempted to speak with her further.”

If this is true, then he was completely and entirely justified in denying this woman communion. He told her privately not to, before the Mass began. And the bishop should be ashamed of himself. Maybe he hadn't heard these further details, but in that case he should not have spoken out like that without first investigating what happened.

26 posted on 02/29/2012 7:15:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: turn_to
Is Communion denied to all sinners, or just gay ones? Because I didn't know that sin had a sliding scale, that some sins were worse than others. Is stealing more sinful than cheating on a spouse? Is being gay the sinniest?

I would suggest that you speak to your priest. In the Roman Catholic Church there are, in fact, different degrees of sin. I'm no theologian, but certainly stealing to, say, feed your starving children is less of a sin than cheating on your spouse. Thus, the wording of of the applicable Canons use the modifier "grave" in front of the word "sin" because some sins are in fact worse than others.

It's also telling that the woman went to the the unusual effort to confront the priest in the sacristy - where no one but the people actively involved in conducting the Mass should be - while he was in the middle of preparations for the Mass. That shows that she was quite obstinate in her sin.

Finally, if she went to that effort to tell the priest it seems pretty likely that it was "widely known to those present at the Mass."

I initially thought the priest had gone too far. But when I read that this woman entered the sacristy to introduce her lover it became clear that she was not victimized; in fact she deliberately set up a confrontation, using her mother's funeral to make a political point. Despicable.

27 posted on 02/29/2012 7:28:20 PM PST by RonF
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‘Celebrations/Parties R US’


28 posted on 02/29/2012 7:29:38 PM PST by RBStealth
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To: Bigg Red

mark


29 posted on 02/29/2012 7:31:21 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Morgana
Anyone care to ask me what I think of the Archdiocese of Washington?
Any issues regarding the suitability of an individual to demand the Sacrament of communion should be addressed by that individual with the priest in a private, pastoral setting.

How did the priest know she was a deviant? A militant perv forfeits "the right thing to do" by default.

I will allow that the priest could have simply done his duty without saying a word

30 posted on 02/29/2012 7:54:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: upchuck

“The Catholic church should be doing the same thing to Pelosi and Kerry because they promote/believe in abortion.”

Senator Mary Landrieu should be added to this list. She is Roman Catholic and always votes with the abortion crowd. She attempts to maintain that she personally is pro-life, but still believes that a woman should have the right to choose. How much more hypocritical can one get?

I am not Catholic, and it appears to me that when these highly visible politicians are allowed to receive communion, the church is being hypocritical and sending the wrong message to all Catholics.


31 posted on 02/29/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by Saltmeat
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To: Morgana

Since when do blatant sinners, who are proud of their sin, have a “right” to Holy Communion?

Shame on the bishop for caving to the world’s perversion. It shows a lack of caring for the soul of those asking to commune. Those who commune unworthily, do so to their soul’s destruction. “Let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.” ( I Corinthians 11:28-29)


32 posted on 02/29/2012 8:07:50 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: turn_to
Is Communion denied to all sinners, or just gay ones? Because I didn't know that sin had a sliding scale, that some sins were worse than others. Is stealing more sinful than cheating on a spouse? Is being gay the sinniest?

Don't be silly.
All mortal sins are equal, it's just that other serious sinners don't announce themselves before demanding communion. If the priest is not aware he has committed no fault or violation of his priesthood.
The auxilliary Bishop, on the other hand...

33 posted on 02/29/2012 8:10:43 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Northern Yankee
I am Catholic and I am with you 100%! I am so ticked off at the diocease to rebuke this priest who is trying to protect the sanctity of the sacrament. (The archdiocease is leading the people down the wrong path...)

My entire sympathy is reserved for the parish priest.
The arrogance of the pervert to demand the removal of the priest from his parish is adding insult to injury.

This continuation of the church hierarchy to ignore the canons of the faith for the sake of political correctness during the church abuse scandal indicated to me that the church left me, not the other way around.

34 posted on 02/29/2012 8:20:39 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: dynachrome
Will Fr. Guarnizo stand tall?

BY all rights he ought to boil those dykes in oil, or at least burn them alive at the stake.

Ahh, the good old days

This beast is a demon spawn who is trying to destroy a Priest for having the stones to do his job.

She needs to gown the road to the Anglicans.

36 posted on 02/29/2012 8:39:04 PM PST by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: Rome2000

She is not Catholic obviously. If she wishes a “church” the rainbow whatever, is for her.


37 posted on 02/29/2012 8:44:27 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Rome2000

Parachute her in over Kabul with a little black dress, 5” heels and a short biography written in the native language. Be creative!;)


38 posted on 02/29/2012 9:01:01 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Rome2000
Can't tell if you forgot the /sarc tag or not.
I am, however, heartened to see that most responders to the thread have not bought into the "pervert as helpless victim" militant deviant propaganda.
39 posted on 02/29/2012 9:19:27 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Morgana

I have been too busy to ping the last couple of days but tomorrow I’ll get this one out for sure!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


40 posted on 02/29/2012 9:45:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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