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Santorum is a “Wafer” Madness Believer!
Get Religion.org ^ | 3/4/12 | Terry Mattingly

Posted on 03/05/2012 6:31:33 AM PST by marshmallow

There is much to discuss in the feature story on Rick Santorum’s faith that has been served up by The New York Times. There is lots of interesting information, some questionable information and then a pretty large chunk of missing information.

However, I think many traditional Catholic believers will start reading this piece — after all, it’s the story of how one normal American Catholic turned into a traditional Roman Catholic — and then find themselves stuck right about here.

As members of St. Catherine of Siena, a parish here in the wealthy Northern Virginia suburb of Great Falls, the Santorums are immersed in a community where large families are not uncommon and many mothers leave behind careers to dedicate themselves to child-rearing, as Mrs. Santorum has. Mr. Santorum has been on the church roster as a lector, reading Scripture from the pulpit.

The parish is known for its Washington luminaries — Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court is a member — as well as its spiritual ardor. Mass is offered in Latin every Sunday at noon — most parishes have Mass only in English — and each Wednesday parishioners take turns praying nonstop for 24 hours before a consecrated communion wafer, a demanding practice known as Eucharistic adoration.

First of all, I think it would be more accurate to say that parishioners take part in a 24-hour cycle of unbroken prayers, with most participating for an hour — a short period of devotion that, for a traditional believer in a number of different traditions, would not be all that “demanding.” The wording in the story is a bit unclear. What does it mean to “take turns praying nonstop”?

However, the fingernails-on-chalkboard moment in this passage for many readers will be the return of the W-word — “wafer.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: ricksantorum; santorum; santorumcatholic
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To: napscoordinator

News flash, Newt’s a Catholic, too. Name one thing Santorum is campaigning on, AND that he has voted for (actions+words), that brings back our Constitutional Republic, and he hasn’t flip-flopped on. Just one.


21 posted on 03/05/2012 7:04:36 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: marshmallow

Kind of a shame they didn’t go full metal Klan with the headline and use the word “cracker” - always amusing when people who claim to be Christians demean the Lord so.


22 posted on 03/05/2012 7:05:31 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: JDW11235

News flash, Newt’s a Catholic, too. Name one thing Santorum is campaigning on, AND that he has voted for (actions+words), that brings back our Constitutional Republic, and he hasn’t flip-flopped on. Just one.

Santorum has not flip flopped on anything. He is principled. Now ask me about Newt’s flip flops and I can go on all day. One of the problem people have with Santorum is that he is too moral, too principled, too honest.


23 posted on 03/05/2012 7:07:07 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: cripplecreek

We still do, at my nondenominatinal Protestant church. A couple of times a month.

I took communion a few years ago at the Falls Church in Virginia when I was visiting there. They serve real sacramental wine, not grape juice, but I didn’t realize it until it I’d already taken a sip. That was a shock to my taste buds!


24 posted on 03/05/2012 7:07:27 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: SandyInSeattle
"real sacramental wine"

WHAT is that, please? Who defines it?

25 posted on 03/05/2012 7:09:42 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: napscoordinator

Wow, Churchill was right. In any event, I’m not interested in reading your apologetics. You’ve stated your opinion, and we disagree. Have a good one.


26 posted on 03/05/2012 7:10:13 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: JDW11235

Have a good one.

You too. Happy Monday.


27 posted on 03/05/2012 7:12:24 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator
LOL the Wall Street Journal calls Gingrich "Professor Cornpone"

he former Speaker blew through Des Moines last Tuesday for the Renewable Fuels Association summit, and his keynote speech to the ethanol lobby was as pious a tribute to the fuel made from corn and tax dollars as we've ever heard. Mr. Gingrich explained that "the big-city attacks" on ethanol subsidies are really attempts to deny prosperity to rural America, adding that "Obviously big urban newspapers want to kill it because it's working, and you wonder, 'What are their values?'"

Professor Cornpone Ethanol lobbyist Newt Gingrich and us—and the future of the GOP


28 posted on 03/05/2012 7:17:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: John Leland 1789

I define it as wine, not grape juice. Would it be better if I took the word “sacramental” out?


29 posted on 03/05/2012 7:17:43 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: napscoordinator
Newt has become more Conservative on the social issues, but as Speaker he pushed legislation through ~ and that always looks like a flip-flop.

He's been around for decades and suffers from the OLDER POLITICIAN PROBLEM, OPP ~ that in his earlier career he worked on behalf of ideas now seen to be outside of the Conservative Main Stream.

Santorum finds himself in the same fix, and even Paul can't 'splain all his votes ~ he doesn't even REMEMBER them!

Romney totally betrayed the movement in Massachusetts. They'd impeached and removed him if he hadn't. But I'll tell you what, he'd have a much better claim to be President if he'd been persecuted by the godless, soulless demons who run the Mass legislature.

30 posted on 03/05/2012 7:27:03 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: John Leland 1789

I’ll tell you what is interesting...we have two Catholics and a Mormom, fighting for the chance to go up against a Muslim...What’s going to happen when all those eyes suddenly turn toward non-denominational/Protestants for support?


31 posted on 03/05/2012 7:28:46 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: JDW11235
His “holier than thou” persona is a big whopper of an act.

Right. Good call.

He's a faker. Completely.

He has only seven kids, so his pro-life stance is clearly just talk. His recent hiatus in campaigning to be by the side of his sick, handicapped daughter was clearly just another ruse to fool the gullible public.

The "walk the walk" example of those who truly believe has always produced calls of "holier than thou" from secularists who sense that the subject's religion might actually really mean something and might actually animate and inform his morality and political ethos.

32 posted on 03/05/2012 7:29:47 AM PST by marshmallow (.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
"Would it be better if I took the word “sacramental” out?"

'Twould be better to take the alcohol out.

33 posted on 03/05/2012 7:32:32 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: marshmallow

#32 bumpus maximus


34 posted on 03/05/2012 7:38:49 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: John Leland 1789

My present church uses non-alcoholic grape juice.

The church in Virginia is Anglican. They separated from the Espiscopal church several years ago.

They still do wine.


35 posted on 03/05/2012 7:39:29 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: smvoice

My advice would be to support the Christians, that is to say one of the Catholics. Mormons are not Christians, and Hussein isn’t either, Jeremiah Wright notwithstanding, that was all just role playing.


36 posted on 03/05/2012 7:40:09 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: marshmallow

When did forcibly taking people money and making them do the “right thing” with it become a conservative principle? I think you’re misguided and are trying to turn this into a very limited reductio ad absurdum argument. But I’m not biting. Take care.


37 posted on 03/05/2012 7:42:35 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: muawiyah; JDW11235
The “Lincoln Hate” thing, has Populist, Southern Libertarian roots. Another Radio Talk his, Mike Church, blathers on about Lincoln for hours.

As far as Santorum goes, I find that to be a rather accurate description of him. The Left is absolutely going out of their way to get Santorum nominated. There is a strong push for them to crossover on Super Tuesday to stop Romney and Gingrich. (And they certainly won't vote for Santo in the General.)

38 posted on 03/05/2012 7:43:27 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: al_c
Demanding?!

Well, if you're pulling the 2-3 AM shift it could be. And good prayer is sometimes very strenuous, especially if you are going through a spiritually dry period. Prayer doesn't always come easy, does it?

39 posted on 03/05/2012 7:47:49 AM PST by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.)
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To: marshmallow

Looks to me like the NYT is trying to reassure Cafeteria Catholics that there’s no reason for them to pay attention to or side with the Bishops by painting anyone who actually believes the Dogma and Doctrines of The Church as some sort of radical traditionalist. I especially like the “wafer” and “24 hours of prayer” stuff and expect the NYT to get back to their 1870s standard of slander directed towards the Catholic Church before long.


40 posted on 03/05/2012 7:49:03 AM PST by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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