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Pat Robertson Backs Legalizing Marijuana
Clem Britt/AP ^ | Jesse McKinley

Posted on 03/08/2012 8:30:25 AM PST by AnTiw1

Of the many roles Pat Robertson has assumed over his five-decade-long career as an evangelical leader - including presidential candidate and provocative voice of the right wing - his newest guise may perhaps surprise his followers the most: marijuana legalization advocate.

"I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol," Mr. Robertson said in an interview on Wednesday. "I've never used marijuana and I don't intend to, but it's just one of those things that I think: this war on drugs just hasn't succeeded."

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: addicts; anarchy; cannabis; drugs; drugwar; ebt; gateway; jobless; legalization; losers; marijuana; narcos; pot; potheads; prayer; pushers; rehab; rehablosers; robertson; users; violence; warondrugs; welfare; whatthedeuce; wimps; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: jmc813

We’ve seen the devestation of pot in people’s lives; some here want their recreational drugs but it would be better if it were only for cancer patients and only that kind of thing.

Just say NO!


201 posted on 03/08/2012 2:39:03 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Well as one pro freedom guy to another I will support your right to want the things you are against made legal while I will assert my right to think legalizing pot is a stupid idea...

And that is about all I can say about that since I gotta get to the house.


202 posted on 03/08/2012 2:39:45 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I put HOURS each day into this site FReeping the truth and keeping a lookout for liberal trolls that need removing.

That's pretty sad. It's just about springtime. Go outside and get some fresh air.

203 posted on 03/08/2012 2:40:01 PM PST by jmc813
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To: AnTiw1

WTG newbie Einstein.

I told you to take your home address off your FReep page.

Looks like you want the boss to do it.


204 posted on 03/08/2012 2:41:09 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ejonesie22
Actually you are not the minority on the issue FR wide.

Uhh, yeah he is, dude.

205 posted on 03/08/2012 2:41:32 PM PST by jmc813
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To: ejonesie22

People that can tie their own shoes. People that think no knock raids are a violation of the 4th Amendment. People with allergies that are sick of having to worry if their purchase of perfectly legal non-prescription drugs is going to be considered too much by the FDA.

My 80 year old mother in law was the victim of a no knock raid last week actually. A “reliable source” made a tip, and they busted in on her while she was redecorating her dead husband’s (dead less than a month, career Air Force) office. They got the description of house wrong on the warrant, but of course wouldn’t let her see it until after they’d finished searching, a search which of course found nothing because she’s an EIGHTY YEAR OLD WIDOW. Welcome to your War on Drugs America where the jack booted thugs can kick in ANY door ANY time for ANY reason, even yours.


206 posted on 03/08/2012 2:41:53 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Actually yes they do in some locations....
207 posted on 03/08/2012 2:42:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
Your drug use inspires my kid to do something stupid, that effects me.

First of all, it's "affects". "Effects" is the noun usage. Sorry a "pro-pot" stoner burnout had to point that out to you. Second of all, this whole "for the children" nonsense is worthy of Hillary "it takes a village" Clinton. If you're not a good enough parent to keep your kid from using drugs, it shouldn't "effect" the rest of us.

208 posted on 03/08/2012 2:45:54 PM PST by jmc813
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To: discostu
Ah...

For the record I think no knock raids and such are a bad idea.

But that does not make me want to run out and have pot as available as Budweiser...

There is a middle ground.

209 posted on 03/08/2012 2:46:43 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
As soon as some libertarian slips up and claims abortion is a States Rights issue

Do you support overturning Roe v. Wade? Because if it were overturned, guess what? IT WOULD BECOME A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE.

210 posted on 03/08/2012 2:49:03 PM PST by jmc813
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To: ejonesie22

Like the middle ground between liberalism and conservatives


211 posted on 03/08/2012 2:49:57 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jmc813
Why thank you Mr. grammar police. However I said more than just about my kid didn't I...

And I know some incredible parents who have had kids with drug issues. That is a BS argument from the pro drugs crowd. Do you really think that attitude and approach is going to win you support among us straights.

212 posted on 03/08/2012 2:51:08 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Why should I have to subsidize someone’s else use of drugs? Because if it’s legalized now I will. If the government legalizes it, taxpayers will be on the hook for the costs, welfare, rehab, and probably the drug itself.


213 posted on 03/08/2012 2:51:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Responsibility2nd
But if the 2 month long FReepathons are any clue, then it does appear there are factions and problems here.

It's called a bad economy. Of course there are factions here. Good debate what makes this a great forum. Of course, if you don't like it, feel free to start your own busybody statist message board and we'll see how many posters you attract.

214 posted on 03/08/2012 2:52:06 PM PST by jmc813
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To: A CA Guy
More like the middle ground between safety and going off a cliff...
215 posted on 03/08/2012 2:52:06 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: A CA Guy
We’ve seen the devestation of pot in people’s lives

I’ve seen the devastation of alcohol in people’s lives - do you support banning that drug?

216 posted on 03/08/2012 2:53:05 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: ejonesie22

No knock raids are part of the WOD, if you’re for it AT ALL you are for no knock raids. And I was against the WOD long before last week’s incident, largely because I saw what the WOD has done to the country, like making no knock raid the standard (not just for the WOD anymore, the vast majority of warrants are now served with a SWAT team and no knock, 30 years ago there was no such thing). It’s simply disgusting. Try to buy enough sudafed for a family of allergy sufferers. You can’t, not by yourself, you’ll need multiple adults buying from multiple locations, then your buying stats go to the DEA, and if they decide that’s “too much” bang goes your door. Better hope you don’t have a coffee maker. Coffee makers are made up of a heating element, a beaker and a filter, which when couple with the presence of sudafed means, in the eyes of the DEA, you run a meth lab.

And frankly having pot as available as beer the answer. Alcohol is actually a very effectively regulated drug. As has been point out by many, the presence of white market alcohol killed the majority of the black market, it’s much more difficult for children to get a hold of than anything forbidden by the WOD because the black market is so small and the white market isn’t willing to take the risk. Nobody is actually pushing for drugs to be wide open. I know that’s the strawman drug warriors like to push but it’s just that. Notice EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this thread that’s spoken out against WOD has said regulate it like tobacco and alcohol. NOBODY is saying give it to your kids. If you REALLY want to keep pot away from your kids, which is an admirable goal, you ACTUALLY want it legalized EXACTLY like Budweiser, which right now at this very minute is harder for them to get.


217 posted on 03/08/2012 2:55:46 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I’ve seen the devastation of alcohol in people’s lives - do you support banning that drug?

If they do criminal acts like all the violent offenders in prison, also send them to prison and start confiscating their stuff. Sure!

218 posted on 03/08/2012 2:56:08 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AnTiw1

Jim’s a busy guy. Do we really need to bring him into this?


219 posted on 03/08/2012 2:56:48 PM PST by jmc813
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To: Responsibility2nd
" WTG newbie Einstein. I told you to take your home address off your FReep page. Looks like you want the boss to do it."

first i was going to get 'zotted' for the thread topic...

now i'm going to get it for violating another rule of yours that is written...nowhere?

exactly who do you think you are, JR's better half?

220 posted on 03/08/2012 2:56:48 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: nickcarraway
But it would interfere with their rights if you don't...

Gotta luv libertarians, no one on the world but them...

221 posted on 03/08/2012 2:57:33 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
And I know some incredible parents who have had kids with drug issues.

And pot is illegal. Those kids would be burnouts whether it was legalized or not.

222 posted on 03/08/2012 3:00:23 PM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
"Jim’s a busy guy. Do we really need to bring him into this?"

not necessarily...but when someone tells me i'm 2b zotted for thread content or non-obscene info on my contact page, i want a second opinion...out of line?

223 posted on 03/08/2012 3:03:32 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: AnTiw1
not necessarily...but when someone tells me i'm 2b zotted for thread content or non-obscene info on my contact page, i want a second opinion...out of line? Just ignore the blustering about that. It's just a Napoleanic complex.
224 posted on 03/08/2012 3:05:49 PM PST by jmc813
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To: AnTiw1; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ..

Wow! The loon’s actually making sense!

PING!


225 posted on 03/08/2012 3:06:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: nickcarraway

You are already subsidizing “drug enforcement” efforts worldwide, incarceration, etc. - well, if you pay taxes. Either way, we pay.


226 posted on 03/08/2012 3:11:09 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: blueunicorn6

The homicidal drug gangs thank you for your remarks.

Oh, and f*ck you too.


227 posted on 03/08/2012 3:12:03 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: jmacusa

That’s my point.


228 posted on 03/08/2012 3:18:34 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Responsibility2nd

Walk proudly. I think your should get rid of anyone who favors legalizing drugs. The purer the site the better.


229 posted on 03/08/2012 3:37:42 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: AnTiw1

Relax New stuff. I don’t want you to get the zot. Even if you are a retread.

Some day - if I feel like it - I’ll tell you the story of how - a few weeks ago - I was instrumental in getting another naive newbie like you UNZOTTED.

So if you do get the zot - I’ll come to your aid also.

(JR’s better half)

You are priceless, ya know that?


230 posted on 03/08/2012 3:53:57 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

lolol

Dude. I was gonna call your attention to the fact that you can’t get away with a vulgar insult someone like that. Then I scrolled up, and I was like...

Ohhhhhh...

lolol

Goes to show. We never really read the replies, or someone never bothered to hit report abuse on the newbie.


231 posted on 03/08/2012 3:58:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: AnTiw1; a fool in paradise
Tomorrow's headlines today:

Pat: Legalize Pat!


232 posted on 03/08/2012 4:03:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: jmc813

You really should update yourself on the pro-life agenda.

Of course I support overturning Roe v. Wade. As a start. But to leave a matter of life and death up to the states is absurd.

The US must enact a Personhood Amendment. Equal rights to the born and the unborn.


233 posted on 03/08/2012 4:05:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Of course I support overturning Roe v. Wade. As a start. But to leave a matter of life and death up to the states is absurd. The US must enact a Personhood Amendment. Equal rights to the born and the unborn.

Fair enough. In that case, we agree completely (please don't go jumping off a bridge for agreeing with a libertarian). I do give you credit for respecting the Constitution, despite our big differences on the danger or lack thereof regarding weed.

234 posted on 03/08/2012 4:19:55 PM PST by jmc813
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To: Responsibility2nd

You were convinced that he was a liberal because he pointed out Santorum and Newt’s flaws? You are so full of yourself.

I know you hate liberals, you say it a lot. Does hating the right people make you socially conservative? Is that your platform?

I dont really care how much work you put in here, that doesnt bolster your argument, just tries to make you look like some sort of hero.

And it is pretty clear you fear other ideas, because you put effort into zotting people who have different ones.

But my original point was that it doesnt surprise me that someone who wants the government to control people’s lives also takes joy in banning different opinions on a website.


235 posted on 03/08/2012 4:20:39 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: ejonesie22

Interesting you use a logical fallacy to try and prove some point about logic.


236 posted on 03/08/2012 4:24:12 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: christx30

How come cops, teachers and those in Congress are not randomly drug tested? How come those who perform the drug testing are not randomly drug tested?


237 posted on 03/08/2012 4:35:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Raider Sam
But my original point was that it doesnt surprise me that someone who wants the government to control people’s lives also takes joy in banning different opinions on a website.

I've noticed over the years, certain types live for that and seem to really get off doing that.

Very odd.

238 posted on 03/08/2012 4:39:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
How come cops, teachers and those in Congress are not randomly drug tested?

The first two can be answered with one word - unions.

239 posted on 03/08/2012 4:53:31 PM PST by jmc813
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To: Responsibility2nd
" You are priceless, ya know that? "

thats sweet but going homo worked with your daddy

not with me ;^)

240 posted on 03/08/2012 4:54:37 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: AnTiw1

Very nice retort there retread new-wad.

I never would have thought to come back with such a gay reply, but then I don’t play your way.


241 posted on 03/08/2012 5:08:13 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"Very nice retort there retread new-wad. I never would have thought to come back with such a gay reply, but then I don’t play your way."

what can i say? i'm so profoundly masculine in everything i say and do, and you seem to be so utterly unlike me, what could i visualize but a pencil necked old man wearing a dress?

242 posted on 03/08/2012 5:19:07 PM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my Country." B. Franklin)
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To: dragnet2

I have no idea. I saw a couple of firefighters in the office waiting to go back to do their test, so people ar getting tested randomly. But I know it does happen. Most companies I have worked at, people are drug tested after accidents.


243 posted on 03/08/2012 6:25:57 PM PST by christx30
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To: AnTiw1

If we legalize marijuana, isn’t that like saying that the hippies were right and we were wrong? I can’t live with that.


246 posted on 03/08/2012 8:00:33 PM PST by Tau Food
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To: A CA Guy
I’ve seen the devastation of alcohol in people’s lives - do you support banning that drug?

If they do criminal acts

That's not the question. You offer devastation of lives as a reason to BAN pot - NOT just punish criminal acts by pot users - so the question is whether you support the SAME policy of BANNING alcohol due to its devastation of lives ... or if you're a hypocrite.

247 posted on 03/08/2012 8:32:56 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: alexander_busek

I found this site that you can look at if you want to. It lists all companies that do drug screens.

http://www.testclear.com/dtcompanies/searchcompany.aspx

You can search by company name, or state, or just view the whole list if you want to.
Looks like an extensive list.


248 posted on 03/08/2012 9:48:03 PM PST by christx30
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To: jmc813

And the third one can be answered simply: They make the laws. It’s also why they and their staff are exempt from jury duty.


249 posted on 03/08/2012 10:10:44 PM PST by christx30
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To: ejonesie22
So why should anyone be aghast at pot being sold at a WalMart that sells hard liquor?
250 posted on 03/09/2012 8:20:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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