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MSNBC's O'Donnell on Romney's "Mormon Problem": How Moronism Was "Invented"
MSNBC via YouTube ^ | April 4, 2012 | Lawrence O'Donnell

Posted on 04/07/2012 2:48:46 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_5hww4HNDQ

And so begins the MSM turn on the Republican nominee. And as much as I hate to credit the MSM, and particularly O'Donnell, I cannot find anything in his rant that is inaccurate, other than the number of wives Joseph Smith claimed. O'Donnell says 48, but I believe the most consistent number put forward by historians is 27. On the other hand, Brigham Young claimed 56 wives, so O'Donnell is certainly within range.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Other Christian; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: 2012; inman; media; mormon; romney; wehatemormons
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

“...Romney’s Obamaesque policies taint the Republican brand.”

Please explain to me what the “Republican brand” actually is. Do you mean like the ‘Conservative’ McCain that the GOP pushed on us last round?

The GOP sucks and has been sucking since Reagan.

You know that we cannot survive 4 more years of this imposter. If we have to elect a RINO, then so be it. Anybody but 0bama this time.

I don’t like it either, but I’ll be damned if I stand by and allow this Marxist to ruin our country because of immature & childish reasoning like not voting for Romney because he’s a Mormon.


101 posted on 04/07/2012 8:03:48 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Utah Binger

Have a nice time with your family.


102 posted on 04/07/2012 8:04:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Mormon missionaries are Christianophobe bigots denigrating Christian faiths.)
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To: Utah Binger

Your tagline lists your location as Southern Utah. I’m wondering if you could shed any light on how Warren Jeffs, who had himself audiotaped raping a 12-year-old “bride” in the name of Jesus, was protected by Utah AG Mark Shurteff and the Utah GOPe until Texas finally took care of the problem?


103 posted on 04/07/2012 8:09:26 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Beware Obamas dressed as Mormon missionaries)
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To: Utah Binger

You have have a blessed and very fun day.


104 posted on 04/07/2012 8:19:35 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Look I dislike Romney. I believe he’s the reason Obama is in office right now.

“I think he’s manipulative. I believe he right away in 2008, after ending that campaign, immediately sensed Sarah Palin was an existential threat to his plan to run again this year - and for that reason only - sent his operatives to undermine Palin, and so doing cost the GOP the election.

“That in my mind was reprehensible, and it does seem to this poster to have been what happened. Others may disagree.

[cut]

“I will once again say honestly I’m not on this board to praise Romney, except to the extent he opposes Obama.”

“Which he’s now doing. So I’m stuck with him.”


We may be on opposite sides of the conservative debate over Romney, but I really feel for you (and other conservatives who are only supporting Romney as the lesser evil to Obama) on this point. Most of us who refuse to support RINO Romney aren’t any more thrilled about the prospect of Obama’s re-election, which we can only stomach as the lesser evil to the greater and more long-term setback to conservatism under Romney. The problem with having to choose between the lesser of two evils is that one is still stuck with evil.

However, that’s what distinguishes us from liberals. We recognize that evil is very real, and that the only way to resist evil is to stand by our principles. So conservative debate is likely to be more spirited because conservatives are by nature principled people who think in terms of good and evil.

Thus division and strong debate among conservatives over Romney is unavoidable. We as conservatives cannot simply agree to disagree, because our principles don’t allow us to agree with evil. The RINOs and GOPe played divide-and-conquer with conservatives to get Romney the nomination, thinking that we conservatives would simply fall in line once Romney won the nomination. But it ain’t gonna happen. Thus this division foisted upon us by RINO/GOPe continues.

Having said that, while we conservatives find ourselves divided over whether Romney or Obama is the lesser evil, there is still much we can do together to advance the conservative cause in America and mitigate the damage done by the RINO/GOPe in insuring that Romney is the nominee.

First, we can all support conservative candidates down-ticket.

Second, we can begin looking for good conservative candidate for 1016.

Third, we can work together to take by the GOP.


105 posted on 04/07/2012 9:10:55 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Beware Obamas dressed as Mormon missionaries)
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To: Longbow1969
Romney -- member of a cult.

Cults, Movements, World Religions
Sects and Satanic Cults

106 posted on 04/07/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: panaxanax

“You know that we cannot survive 4 more years of this imposter.”

Is the Obama in your mind that mighty, or is your idea of America that frail?


107 posted on 04/07/2012 9:21:28 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Longbow1969
The Supreme Court for one. There is a very good chance that the next President will be replacing at least Ginsburg.

Then, there is a possibility Kennedy, who said he won't retire with Obama in office, will decide to retire if Romney is elected. Then, we could get stuck with another David Souter and a Republican moving the party to the left. Sorry, I'm not taking that chance.

108 posted on 04/07/2012 11:33:08 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Not one GOP effort has been taken to stop anything he’s done so far.

Nonsense. Republicans universally tried to stop Obamacare. They forced Obama into extending the Bush tax cuts.

Some of the same RINOs that stood on "principle" to do that with Obama in the White House won't hesitate to work with Romney to pass through Romneycare nationally, raise taxes on the rich and give us a VAT tax.

109 posted on 04/07/2012 11:36:04 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
An Obama re-election may mean America is finished.

Nonsense. It will spur a further backlash that will give Republicans the greatest majorities in Congress and at the state level we have seen in decades, if not ever.

Obama will end up with four years of a lame-duck Presidency, falling poll numbers and will be forced to sign on to some conservative legislation just to salvage a legacy.

110 posted on 04/07/2012 11:38:45 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Artemis Webb
When your third party school board member gets to nominate a replacement for Scalia or Kennedy or Ginsburg let me know

Here's something for you know -- Kennedy has said he won't retire with Obama in the White House. He would with Romney in the White House. There is a very good possibility if that happens, Romney could move the court to the LEFT by giving another David Souter.

Why on earth you'd trust Romney to put justices on the Supreme Court when he packed the court full of liberals in Massachusetts is a mystery to me.

There is reason why conservatism isn't making significant progress and it is because people like you keep voting for liberals like Romney.

111 posted on 04/07/2012 11:42:27 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Psalm 144

“Is the Obama in your mind that mighty, or is your idea of America that frail?”
_______________________

Both.


113 posted on 04/08/2012 4:32:37 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Lancey Howard; Jim Robinson

> I’m smelling a stench from you, noob.
> It’s the stench of a liberal troll. I got really good nostrils when it comes to liberal trolls.

ROTFLMAO!

You’re such a kidder.

First off, I’m not a noob. Second, my conservative credentials are well established.

Anyway, I’ll email Jim Robinson privately with the details.


114 posted on 04/08/2012 5:57:56 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Beware Obamas dressed as Mormon missionaries)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Happy Easter to all..

From up north in the land of the ice and snow...

(Well almost)

He is Risen..

Jesus is God

God can do the impossible...

God can do what man cannot...

Can Romney win ???

Only maybe...

Will God win ???

Always...

Just because Obama will beat the magic pants off Romney

doesnt mean that we are to blame..

if you want us to vote for your guy...

First ya gotta give us someone to elect...

right now its FAIL...


115 posted on 04/08/2012 6:07:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

No idea. Sounds like you already know it all.


116 posted on 04/08/2012 6:07:55 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Kazan
"Here's something for you know -- Kennedy has said he won't retire with Obama in the White House"

Here's something for you to know. Justice Kennedy is 75. Retirement is not what I was thinking about when I said he might leave the court.

Here's something else, as much as FReepers often HATE the Bush family, it was the Bush family that gave us Thomas, Alito and Roberts. Let's see, didn't GHW Bush recently endorse Romney? Why yes, I believe he did. President Reagan on the other hand gave us Scalia, but also Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor.

As for "people like me" holding back the advancement of conservatism...I thought the all powerful Tea Party was taking care of that. Gosh a year ago the Tea Party, or those who spoke of them here on FR, were going to own every seat in both houses of congress via their popular conservative mandate. I'm just a middle aged guy in Missouri. How can I stop such a juggernaut of an organization as the Tea Party?

117 posted on 04/08/2012 8:28:18 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: greyfoxx39
,Since you are so confident of this, I'm sure you can provide a source to verify it. Please.

Okie dokie, though it wouldn't have been hard for you to find this yourself since it's been widely reported and is available all over the web:

RNC shoots down Texas primary change

http://www.politico.com//blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/rnc-shoots-down-texas-primary-change-119800.html

A spokesman for the Republican National Committee said Texas would need — but not receive — a waiver from the national party to change its primary. “There is no basis for a waiver. Texas will remain a proportional state,” spokesman Sean Spicer said via Twitter.

There will be no change to the delegate distribution in Texas. It's just Santorum's campaign trying to generate excitement. The RNC will never allow it.

118 posted on 04/08/2012 9:01:27 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Artemis Webb
As for "people like me" holding back the advancement of conservatism...I thought the all powerful Tea Party was taking care of that. Gosh a year ago the Tea Party, or those who spoke of them here on FR, were going to own every seat in both houses of congress via their popular conservative mandate. I'm just a middle aged guy in Missouri. How can I stop such a juggernaut of an organization as the Tea Party?

It's ALL your fault dude!

The truth is the Tea Party is just not anywhere near as powerful as some thought it would be, and some disillusioned people are just lashing out and looking to blame anyone - even one guy from Missouri.

The obvious truth is Romney federal judicial appointments will be better than Obama's simply because he will answer to a different constituency. Massachusetts is a deep blue state and Willard never really had 50% of the government or people behind the idea of appointing conservative jurists. He would as President. That doesn't mean they'd be excellent or even good - just better than what Hussein would nominate. With each nomination Romney would always have to decide whether to throw a bone to conservatives. With each nomination Obama doesn't even consider that as he is always just looking to pick the most radical left judge he can squeeze through the Senate.

Political pragmatism may be a dirty word at the moment, but having lived in other parts of the world and seen splintered opposition unable to unite and stop leftist candidates I am perfectly willing to vote for an unimpressive centrist moderate candidate over a hard left socialist.

119 posted on 04/08/2012 9:23:21 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Bravo to your great post.


120 posted on 04/08/2012 9:25:20 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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