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The on-coming Romney onslaught against Christian conservatives [VANITY]

Posted on 04/08/2012 8:37:38 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon

You watch, Romney's campaign is going to throw allegations of religious bigotry at Christian conservatives like you can't believe.

Let me tell you something. The Romney people have some of the best political consultants in the country and they don't get there because they're always wonderful people. The RINO/GOPe are tough. They're very tough. We saw how they undermined Governor Palin during the last election, and the scorched earth policy they carried out against Romney's primary opponents who were conservative or Christian. I've worked with some of them on other campaigns, they're the best there is in the business. And there is nothing they won't do.

Already, Senator Hatch is accusing Christian conservatives of being Obama operatives.


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1 posted on 04/08/2012 8:37:50 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Romney is no Christian. Same as Reverend Wright. They are both cultists of some weird variety.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 8:40:33 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

The on-coming Romney onslaught against Christian conservatives

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Award for most ridiculous post. Congrats...


3 posted on 04/08/2012 8:43:55 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

I’m no fan of Romney, but I don’t think he will slit his own throat by attacking evangelicals. He NEEDs them.


4 posted on 04/08/2012 8:44:53 PM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

I think he is more pragmatic and ‘slick’ than to do that. He is a politician, they try to be all things to all people. To Christian Conservatives, he’ll claim to be one of them. To liberals, he’ll promise them his ‘stash’. To Hindus, he’ll offer milk to Ganesh. To Jews, he’ll get circumcised on TV. For Muslims, he’ll wear a burka. For Pastafarians, he’ll pour tomato sauce on his head.

A career politician is like a used car salesman and we are all his marks.


5 posted on 04/08/2012 8:45:48 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Somebody needs to quit hyperventilating.


6 posted on 04/08/2012 8:48:31 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

The religious bigot schtick has been going on for a long time. The Willardbots threw that in my face going back to 2006, despite the fact they couldn’t come up with a single post to prove their slander.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 8:49:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

You might not agree with this, but within my experience all Mormons view themselves as Christians, albeit weird ones. I’d advise you to begin worrying about Barrack Hussein Obama a bit more and about Mormons a bit less.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 8:53:57 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Richard from IL

Romney himself will appear to stay above the fray, just like he did with Palin last election. It’s his surrogates who will attack Christian conservatives as religious bigots and/or Democrat operatives. It’s already happening, although I cannot prove it.


9 posted on 04/08/2012 8:54:20 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Christ is risen!)
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To: SumProVita

Correct! A tactic such as this would be suicidal for Romney, just as 0bama attacking Catholicism might well cost him his re-election. I don’t even think it would be wise for 0bama to attack Mormonism; That will be done under the media umbrella with numerous articles attacking Romney under the cover of attacking Mormonism.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 8:55:28 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

That’s a good way to put it.. 0bama will attack Mormonism and Romney will attack Christianity, but using surrogates to do so.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 8:57:48 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Attacking anyone who points out what a political liability is it to have a Mormon nominee as a “bigot” is a foretaste of exactly what you predict.

Obama will hit Romney for the weird Mormon doctrines through his underlings. Everyone will know about these beliefs.

Hatch and other Mormons in high office or in the CIA or military are not elected on the national level.

Top Ten Bizarre Mormon beliefs: http://listverse.com/2008/02/04/top-10-bizarre-mormon-beliefs/

It will sink his chances and we can count on a second Obama term.


12 posted on 04/08/2012 8:59:16 PM PDT by garjog
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Welcome to FR. Have some more granola, Crunchy. I’m no Romney fan but he’s a slight bit better that your 0bamabot.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 9:00:03 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Yep!

One point though: Obama is not attacking Catholicism per se. He is attacking freedom of religion!


14 posted on 04/08/2012 9:00:18 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

I don’t understand your logic. Romney knows he needs both Evangelicals and Catholics to vote for him.

My issue with Romney has nothing to do with his religion, but rather with my belief that he won’t be much better than President Obama.


15 posted on 04/08/2012 9:01:09 PM PDT by Infralutheran
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

You don’t pass the sniff test much either. Is Crunchy your friend?


16 posted on 04/08/2012 9:02:11 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Let me see if I get your point...

You say people will attack Romney for being mormon. Then people will attack the attackers for being anti-mormon christian bigots. Then you say romney will accuse them of being democrat operatives?

Which ones are the operatives? The anti mormon romney attackers or the anti-anti attackers of the attackers?

I think a bigger worry right now is the people supporting obama and why is it we get the evil eye whenever we question HIS citizenship and religion?


17 posted on 04/08/2012 9:05:13 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: FlyingEagle
Went past two Mormom stake houses today. FINALLY got Mrs. CT to notice - THEY DO NOT CELEBRATE EASTER!!
18 posted on 04/08/2012 9:07:22 PM PDT by CT (Make Mine Newt)
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To: FlyingEagle
Romney is no Christian

What is so insulting to Christianity is that Mormons CALL themselves Christian.
How can anyone vote for a person who is sure that he will be a leader on a distant planet when he dies? Ludicrous.

19 posted on 04/08/2012 9:12:13 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

This post is an embarrassment. Go stir things up elsewhere like Daily Kos.


20 posted on 04/08/2012 10:06:23 PM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: Infralutheran

> I don’t understand your logic.

I don’t understand it either. However, it’s not my logic, it’s Senator Hatch’s with a small substitution:

http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=70&threadid=6583413&start=1&currentPage=1

It amazes me that with Romney’s scorched earth policy toward Governor Palin and all of Romney’s conservative opponents during the primary, that Senator Hatch and this line of logic is the best he can come up with against Obama in the surrogate religious wars.


21 posted on 04/08/2012 10:18:16 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Christ is risen!)
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To: SumProVita; NorthernCrunchyCon

Learn about moromism.
The very foundation of mormonism is anti-Christian.
Before you defend mormonism, learn about it.


22 posted on 04/08/2012 10:25:15 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: varmintman

mormons can live in a garage and consider themselves cars, it does not make it so.
mormonism is not Christianity in any word that you can write.
Until the last few decades mormons did everything they could not to be identified as Christians, now it is beneficial for them to have the world think this and SLC lds have spend millions of dollars to change their image.
Before you defend it,learn about it.


23 posted on 04/08/2012 10:29:03 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: CreviceTool

Before you defend mormonism learn about it.


24 posted on 04/08/2012 10:31:06 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: mplsconservative

Who’s Crunchy and what are you sniffing?


25 posted on 04/08/2012 10:57:18 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Let us not forget, with Nominee Romney as he’s all been anointed at this point, state chairmanships will fall to his people, all across the nation, undercutting all levels of state and local races. If you thought McCain’s people have been bad these last four years, wait until you see what Romney’s people will do to make all levels of the GOP as ‘moderate friendly’ as possible.

There’s not a lot of ways around this, other than all of us to hound and start pushing our own ways up the GOP ladder and unseat these RINOs and any others we can find along the way and retake this party.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 11:08:59 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: mnehring
For Pastafarians, he’ll pour tomato sauce on his head.
Oh, great! A beleiver in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Were you touched by his noodly appendage? ;)
27 posted on 04/08/2012 11:20:51 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
Check into the groups that have been providing statistics to various news outlets to prove their point that Fundamentalists have moved closer to King Barry since he was elected and I bet dollars to donuts there are more than a few of the pro-Romney Vichy Republican crowd involved. Not only will there be a major attack on Christians by Romney and his crowd, there has been a major group within the Vichy Republican crowd just waiting for their chance to make sure no one thinks that the "religious right" has any influence in the Vichy Party.

Romney is the Vichy dream, someone who won't rock the boat but knows how to fight tooth and nail for a bigger share of the extortion money going to the Vichy Party.

The very same people who worked so hard to bring false charges against Newt because Newt was rocking the boat are now only interested in getting back to the point they were at under Clinton. Once Newt was shed, the Vichy Party had enough leverage to veto any division of the graft and extortion that didn't cut them in for a half share. That's what they want to make sure happens again and could care less what rights get trampled on once they're back to the point that they aren't shut out of the next few trillion that's thrown around so fast that no one can possibly keep track of it.

JMHO

28 posted on 04/09/2012 2:28:08 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: cloudmountain

19th Century Scientology.


29 posted on 04/09/2012 2:38:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

If mitt declares war on Christians... his cult church will have the light of truth shown deep into the belly of its being. Let him... the more I find out about his religion... the more that I think all of us need an education on what it is.

LLS


30 posted on 04/09/2012 4:22:58 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: garjog

If worse comes to worse, as long as both the House and Senate are in conservative hands, it will create a “much weaker Obama”.


31 posted on 04/09/2012 4:28:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: cloudmountain

Why would Mormons call themselves Christians if they deny the CROSS of Christ, which is the BIG and IMPORTANT message of Lent, Holy Week, and Easter?


32 posted on 04/09/2012 4:31:36 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
If worse comes to worse, as long as both the House and Senate are in conservative hands, it will create a “much weaker Obama”.

If "conservatives" climb on the Romney bandwagon, the Congress won't be in conservative hands. It will either be in Democrat or Romney Republican hands.

And either is the same road to ruin.

33 posted on 04/09/2012 4:38:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
Yes, you are correct, in that there will be an onslaught of anti-Christian attacks by Romney. He will seek to divide and conquer.

Romney is an atheistic secularist, just like Obama is. Romney also knows that most of Americans, regardless of their “claims” to be some form of Christian or Jew, are most accurately categorized as atheistic secularists. The past 50+ years of public school indoctrination has guaranteed him a sizable audience of atheistic secularists who like to pride themselves on some “remnant” conservative principles...but absolutely not on the ethics, morals and the religion that founded and grew and prospered those conservative principles...no sir, can't be associated with something as divisive as True Faith.

So, Romney will have much to gain by this “onslaught.” And he will have much support to gain from his atheistic secularism, but I do not believe it will be near enough to beat Obama.

Catholics (real, not Cafeteria) have no moral obligation to vote when both candidates are atheistic and anti-life. And (let me nip it in the bud, in case anyone is going to respond this way), please, spare me the Romney is ProLife now lie.

34 posted on 04/09/2012 4:43:11 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Not really, look for the Senate to go majority conservative Republican, the House to stay as is right now, maybe get more conservatives, thus a much weaker President, count on it.


35 posted on 04/09/2012 4:46:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Your definition of what a conservative is and mine are obviously different.


36 posted on 04/09/2012 4:51:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Sometimes I can't believe what people post here.

37 posted on 04/09/2012 4:55:10 AM PDT by McGruff (Umm...I'm thinking.)
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To: svcw

I wasn’t *defending* the Mormon religion. I was stating that the assumption that Romney will attack conservative Christians is ridiculous.


38 posted on 04/09/2012 5:11:04 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Biggirl
Why would Mormons call themselves Christians if they deny the CROSS of Christ, which is the BIG and IMPORTANT message of Lent, Holy Week, and Easter?

They have such a convoluted epistemology that I am not surprised anymore. What adds to the confusion is that they CHANGE their "doctrine" every so often.
Faiths don't do that; cults do.

39 posted on 04/09/2012 5:38:38 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SumProVita
For those interested, here's a helpful link on Mormonism.
40 posted on 04/09/2012 5:39:42 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Your post really takes ridiculous conspiracy mongering to a whole new level.

The tiny fraction of the population of Americans that are Mormon isn’t even close to enough to win national elections on their own. Romney, and any future Republican Mormon running for national office, NEEDS the evangelical vote to even have a possibility of winning. There is zero chance Romney is going to attack Christians, Christianity, evangelicals, Catholics, etc. It’s just not going to happen.

I’ve come to the conclusion that what all this Mormon bashing and Mormon hysteria is about is simply that they dare call themselves Christian. That’s whats really stuck in some peoples craw. If Mormons called themselves something else many of the people wailing and moaning of the insidious danger of LDS would treat it as just another wrong religion and largely move on. This is all just because Mormons consider themselves Christian.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 5:39:57 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon
The on-coming Romney onslaught against Christian conservatives [VANITY]

"Yeah, I'm going to launch an onslaught against the one group without which I'll never win the presidency."
42 posted on 04/09/2012 5:40:23 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: mlizzy

Thanks. I AM quite aware of the history and beliefs of Mormons. ;-)


43 posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:13 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
I will state again, the very foundation of mormoniam is anti-Christian.

You need to learn about it.

For you to assert that Romney will not attack Christians is what is rediculous, he already has by the very basis of what he ascribes to as a faith.

It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men....If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,” ( Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670)

“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world” - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world.” - Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.” - Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon’ whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent.” - Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

You seriously need to learn about mormonism if you think will not continue this line of teaching and practice.

44 posted on 04/09/2012 6:51:05 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Longbow1969

There is no mormon bashing, it is exposing mormonISM.
If mormons didn’t refer to themselves as Christians you might be correct.
Referring to themselves as Christians is actually a new event, before several decades ago, they bristled at the thought of being referred to as such.
SLC lds is desperate to be viewed as mainstream, they are not.
mormonism is not Christianity, and it should be called Christian.


45 posted on 04/09/2012 6:56:39 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Richard from IL

Romney does not need religious conservatives. He knows they will never vote for Obama, so he has no problem with their sitting on the sideline.

He’s going after the moderate vote, anyway, because the liberal vote constitutes only 20% of the electorate.


46 posted on 04/09/2012 7:03:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: svcw

Allow me to repeat something which I have previously posted:

Thanks. I AM quite aware of the history and beliefs of Mormons. ;-)


47 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:18 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Dude. You are a nut. Maybe even a troll.


48 posted on 04/09/2012 7:08:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

This thread certainly has brought out the Romney-bots.


49 posted on 04/09/2012 7:11:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SumProVita

If you are familiar with mormonism history and doctrine, why then do you seem insistent on saying Romney will not attack Christians?
The foundation and beyond of mormonism are attacks on Christians/Jews.
Romney has nearly destroyed several vocal and unashamed Christians in this presidential race alone. Romney has nearly destroyed several vocal and unashamed Christians stopping them from getting into this race at all.
The ones who hid their faith, he has ignored.


50 posted on 04/09/2012 7:14:33 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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