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To: boatbums
You do realize that the SAME Holy Spirit inspired the writers of those Psalms, right?

Catholics believe the Holy Spirit inspired all of the writings that make up "the Bible". (Are you aware that Catholic priests and religious and many lay people regularly pray the "Liturgy of the Hours", aka "The Divine Office", which largely consists of praying, singing, or chanting the various Psalms several times every day, to consecrate various hours of the day?)

While all Old Testament writings are inspired and unquestionably useful, many commands and directives in the Old Testament no longer apply directly to Christians today (not just the animal sacrifices). For example, some people were commanded to militarily invade and conquer the "Promised Land", then inhabit that land, and others were explicitly commanded to NOT enter that same promised land. Most Christians today do not feel directed by those same commands to either settle in that promised land, or to stay out of that promised land, simply because of those early Biblical commands. Those ancient directives may still be instructive in various ways, but they (and many other directives given back then, not just those concerning the animal sacrifices) no longer directly apply to Christians today in a literal way.

Regarding your various references to Bible texts about "faith", do you believe those references refer to a "living faith", or to a "faith that is dead"? Do you know that a New Testament Christian writer inspired by the Holy Spirit said that faith without works is dead?
359 posted on 04/22/2012 7:24:03 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ( "The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: Heart-Rest
Regarding your various references to Bible texts about "faith", do you believe those references refer to a "living faith", or to a "faith that is dead"? Do you know that a New Testament Christian writer inspired by the Holy Spirit said that faith without works is dead?

Regarding your words prior to this paragraph, yes, I am well aware that we are under a new covenant with God, one of grace and not of the law. Much of the Old Testament laws and ordinances were given to Israel and, though they STILL needed faith to be redeemed, their relationship and earthly life with Almighty God hinged upon their obedience and submission to His rules. The Old Testament is STILL relevant in many ways to us today because it describes the nature of God and His ways and He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow - He changes not.

WRT "faith" being a living faith versus a dead faith...the faith that saves is the kind of faith that is demonstrated by actions. REAL faith is such that, like love, it always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Genuine faith not only acquires the gift of eternal life, but it also gives us the Holy Spirit who indwells us until the day we arrive in Heaven. The indwelling Spirit creates within us a new spirit nature that the works that God has prepared for us to do can be done through His power. That is how James described we can tell if another's faith is real or not - by their "works" or actions.

But it should NEVER be misconstrued that our works or deeds are what earns or merits God's gift of eternal life. That is ONLY by grace through faith and not by works - so that no one can boast. We do nothing that can deserve heaven with Almighty God because we all have sinned and miss the mark of God's perfection. The payment for sin is death - NOT good works, deeds, penance, money, etc. - and the blood of Jesus Christ is what has made that payment in our place.

367 posted on 04/22/2012 10:15:02 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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