Please note that this image is from the sketch comedy "Portlandia" with Fred Armisen of SNL in the front center. It is NOT a photo of the actual thugs who raided the church. It's a parody of such people.
Posted on 04/30/2012 6:49:25 PM PDT by Morgana
Edited on 04/30/2012 8:13:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Consider that if this had been a homosexual "church" the outrage would have been constant, deafening and violent toward all Christians.
You are sadly naive. Confused people don't go on anarchist rampages making murderous threats.
If you say so. For a better understanding of from where I'm coming, check out my profile.
Confused people don't go on anarchist rampages making murderous threats.
Context!
My comment regarding confusion was about their sexuality.
Homosexuals, queers, gays, or who ever, are people, too. If someone breaks the law, throw hammers through windows or engages in any threatening manner, they may see immediate justice.
“Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.”
Note very carefully that there's a difference between hating our personal enemies and hating those who are the declared enemies of God. Psalm 139 needs to be used very rarely, but this is one of the very, very few cases where we are called by God to respond with hatred to those who unquestionably are haters of God, His law, and His Word.
Unfortunately what happened to Mark Driscoll’s satellite church is not an isolated incident. Do some googling on First Orthodox Presbyterian Church of San Francisco, which fired its organist when it discovered he was a practicing homosexual and thereby ran afoul of anti-discrimination laws. The church's successful legal fight established the court precedent that churches can “discriminate” in their hiring practices based on their theology. However, winning the legal fight didn't stop the radical homosexual activists from repeated physical attacks on the church.
I have personal knowledge of several other incidents where churches were attacked by radical homosexuals and the incidents got swept under the rug either by police or by churches acting out of a wrong application of the biblical principle to turning the other cheek.
Very few Jewish synagogues or Muslim mosques would tolerate what happened to Mark Driscoll’s church — nor should they. We live in America where freedom of worship and private property rights are both guaranteed by the Constitution. Christianity does not teach pacifism and we need to respond to these sorts of attacks with public demands that the police prosecute those responsible, along with quieter steps to protect the church property via force of arms if necessary.
I doubt very much that this group of “Angry Queers” is more than an extreme fringe element; it would be too much to think this was an deliberate “probe” to see how Christians will respond. I'm speaking from a human perspective here — while there is probably no earthly conspiracy, we can be sure it **IS** a probe by the Devil to see how far he can push things. Failure to respond forcefully to attacks like this will invite more attacks by radical extremists, and more seriously, will cause organized liberal groups to think they can get away with other steps to silence Christian conservatives.
Christians are at war for survival in some of America's more radically liberal areas. We've always been in a spiritual war by people who want to silence our message in the public square, but it is becoming increasingly obvious we may be in a physical war as well pushed by those who not only want to silence our free speech rights but also physically attack us.
>>Shouldn’t assume all Christians are passive.
How did you get an idea like that from my post? “Open season” implies no government or law enforcement agencies will stand up to protect us from these people. I never said that we wouldn’t be manning the barricades and returning fire, if it comes to that.
LOL!! I always appreciate a witty remark.
LOL!! I always appreciate a witty remark.
Please note that this image is from the sketch comedy "Portlandia" with Fred Armisen of SNL in the front center. It is NOT a photo of the actual thugs who raided the church. It's a parody of such people.
See post 70.
Haven't heard anything from the Violent Femmes in years.
Hope they aren't involved in this outrage.
“We angry queers are not fans of Jesus, but we have a problem with anyone who has a problem with femmes.”
Yet these same people would be fans of Mohammad.
The 1890s. As in the "Gay Nineties."
Is Armisen auditioning for Fiddler?
Would they really, though?
They're probably too scared of Muhammad's real fans to pull anything like this in a mosque, but would they really embrace Islamicism?
The comment was not at all directed to you and I’m sorry I did not phrase it more clearly and you took it that way. The subject person in the article seems to “assume” he can threaten Christians with impunity. I think you and I agree that “it ain’t necessarily so”.
Oh Mohammad’s fans would blow up their queer bars and hangouts if they dare tried this at a mosque. Yea they know this. What they don’t know is that Islam not only is against homos but says they should be put to death. Yet do they protest Islam? Not a chance.
The GOP and especially right-wing talk shows. Sean Hannity has kids my kids’ age.
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