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Bridges of faith between Mormons and Muslims
mormon muslim.com ^ | Debra Richardson, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/02/2012 10:40:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: MindBender26

And yet you won’t stand for him nor take the time to see what the LDS really say about our Savior...

If you again pour through my history as you seem want to do, you’ll note I learned that lesson as well, once thinking the LDS were just a cute little quaint group that had an odd believe or two.

Ironically it was fighting against Romney politically on this very site where I learned far more than I bargained for.


41 posted on 05/02/2012 8:54:56 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: MindBender26

You don’t know me very well if you think I’d support an abortionist, homosexualist, liberal/progressive, socialist statist for the presidency. Not gonna happen and I told everyone that up front. The GOP has done screwed the pooch.


42 posted on 05/02/2012 8:57:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Been a while for me...

I may have to vote for Mitt down the road (and that aint for sure) but God as my witness I WILL NOT walk quietly down that path.

The GOP needs to learn that no means no...


43 posted on 05/02/2012 9:01:04 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
You have hit on one of my “disagreements” with some Christian faiths.

I know many believe that it's all about what one says or has “faith” in, but with all respect, I'm more into “deeds.” I guess that's one of the reasons I support Conservatives: Liberals talk and pontificate. Conservatives do something!

I was very disappointed when some of my Christian friends said Mother Theresa could not get to heaven because she was not ‘reborn.’ Sorry, but I just guess that if she's not there, not many of us have much chance either.

:)

Again, not attacking anyone’s belief, just explaining mine. I've known too many fine people who happened to be Mormons to condemn anyone just because they are one.

Be well.

44 posted on 05/02/2012 9:03:02 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Jim, Thanks for your reply.

I certainly can understand your position, and in so many ways, it echos mine. It’s just that I don’t see any alternative to Romney.

Does anyone?

Be well


45 posted on 05/02/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: MindBender26

I never said it was Satan itself.

Simple question, does the LDS take one closer to god or father away. Is it of Christ or something else.

Study it. You will find your answer.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 9:23:40 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: MindBender26

Well, I can tell you this. We’re going to turn out like never before to elect conservatives into as many offices in the land as we possibly can, including building on the house majority and retaking the senate. Obama is without a doubt the worst president in American history. He’s already getting desperate by having a Republican house. IF he’s re-elected he’ll really be isolated with a Republican senate too, and with the Republicans holding the majority of the governors and state legislatures. He’s committing impeachable offenses at every turn already. After he’s completely isolated he will go berserk and REALLY try to take desperate steps. But we’re going to come down on him like a ton of bricks. The Republican led states will re-assert their tenth amendment powers and cut him off at the knees. This is already taking shape. He will not get anything through the congress. He’ll be tied up in congressional investigations and in court. The tea party will explode in numbers and will protest like never before and will hound him day and night wherever he goes. His own party will turn on him due to his being a total failure and his attempts to bypass the congress and the people (we the American people still love our constitution and our freedom, even some of the democrats). They will not be able to justify his radical unconstitutional criminal behavior. The media will smell blood in the water and go into a feeding frenzy. He will either be hounded out of office like Nixon or be the first American president in history to be impeached and removed!!

His co-conspirator Joe Biden too. Thank God we’ll have a strong conservative Republican (hint, hint—goodbye Boehner) Speaker of the House!

If Romney wins, we’ll be fighting him tooth and nail every step of the way. Unfortunately, the RINOs in congress will support him and stab us in the back every chance they get. Romney’s first big government socialist item to try to get through is compulsory health insurance (RomneyCare) in all 50 states. Has already started a national healthcare task force to get it done. They claim it’s a “conservative solution,” is constitutional at the state level and boast that they already have 26 states lined up and ready to push it through (see keyword Bondi, Pam Bondi). He will do nothing for pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government, pro-liberty causes except give us lip service. His appointments will be moderates (liberals actually). We’ll have to fight him tooth and nail and here again, and the RINOs will cave. He’ll push stimulus spending and bailouts. He’ll push global warming. He’ll push shamnesty. And the RINOs will cave. He’ll trim around the edges some on spending and income taxes, but will try to increase “revenues” in other ways. He is not a deep cutter. He’s not a cutter at all. Has no intention of being anything but a moderate (liberal). And the RINOs will go along. If and when it comes time for re-election, they’ll push as never before to drop the nuisance social planks from the party platform to attract the independents and moderates and build their big tent. He’s deeply concerned for “women’s rights,” “minority rights,” “gay rights,” “immigrant rights,” “saving the planet,” saving us from “dangerous guns,” saving us peons from medical bankruptcy, saving too big to fail corporations, propping up the stock market and the financial institutions, saving us from inflation/deflation/depression, making government efficient and keeping the trains running on time. In other words, using/abusing federal powers to save us from ourselves. He thinks he’s a financial whiz, an executive genius and has the brainpower and know how to do it all. The only things he won’t think about trying to save is our inalienable rights or our constitution. All the other crap he’s going to try to solve is constitutionally reserved to the states and the people. That, will never occur to him.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 10:32:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MindBender26
If you are so wrapped in Religion, and perhaps Christianity, you might remember the Commandment, “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.” See Matthew 22: 36-40

By the way, who are you to judge another’s religion, or worse, ignore God's Law, spoken by Christ Himself as shown above?

Uh...

Just a saved sinner that has read some of the OTHER verses in the BIBLE that state:

 
 
Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 
 
Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.



48 posted on 05/03/2012 4:19:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: jimt
This is the third THREE MINUTES' HATE post of the day.

Now Ma'am; you KNOW we spend a LOT more time than THAT every day!



49 posted on 05/03/2012 4:20:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
By the way, who are you to judge another’s religion...

Why; we're MORMONs!

WE have the TRUTH!

We are doing just what our Leaders have done; and, by Moroni's trumpet, we'll cover the GLOBE with our message when MITT wins!!!




Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

50 posted on 05/03/2012 4:23:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
You fail to follow Jesus’ first commandment to love others.

You have it wrong.

It IS 'love' to tell others that they are on the WRONG path. Following a FALSE christ will earn a person a FALSE salvation.


He is ashamed of you.

And how do you know that?

Mark 8.38
‘Those who are ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of them the Son of Man will also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.’

It is the MORMONs who appear ashamed of Christ's words; while I (and my buddies) quote them ALL of the time.


The MORMONs will tell you, "But LOOK! We have the name of Jesus right on our BUILDINGS!!"

Have you ever heard the old saying about a book and it's cover?

51 posted on 05/03/2012 4:30:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
You consistancy about judging folks seems to be a bit flexible.

Secondly, all you anti-Mormon loonies are the same; afraid, ashamed and too cowardly to admit what you actually are.

As for the name calling; I guess you have your reasons.

Perhaps you'll enlighten others with them. We'll see.

52 posted on 05/03/2012 4:33:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
You consistancy about judging folks seems to be a bit flexible.

Secondly, all you anti-Mormon loonies are the same; afraid, ashamed and too cowardly to admit what you actually are.

As for the name calling; I guess you have your reasons.

Perhaps you'll enlighten others with them. We'll see.

53 posted on 05/03/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
And, since your FR site makes it obvious you hate Fred Thompson, you are obviouswly a DU troll who came on just after the 2004 Kerry defeat.

Houston: we have a problem...

54 posted on 05/03/2012 4:34:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
And, since your FR site makes it obvious you hate Fred Thompson, you are obviouswly a DU troll who came on just after the 2004 Kerry defeat.

Does ANYONE know how to remove the smell of elderberries??

55 posted on 05/03/2012 4:34:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
He speaks to me every night in prayer. Doesn’t he speak to you.

He who?

Do you FOLLOW what 'he' tells you to do?

The Voices can be quite confusing at times; as you know.

56 posted on 05/03/2012 4:36:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
I'm just trying to stop people trying to help reelect Obama, that's all, Jim.

In your own, insane way.

I figger the country is screwed for at LEAST the next 4 years either way; and a person's SOUL is of MUCH more value than this country which has lost it's moorings.

If you have read the Book, as you seem to claim, then you KNOW what happened, time after time, when the Jews failed to follow their GOD.

We, as a Nation, can NOT say we have not been warned.


Proverbs 14:34

Righteousness exalts a nation,
But sin is a disgrace to any people.

57 posted on 05/03/2012 4:41:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks, Jim.

You are entiely correct, and it is an excellent plan of action.


58 posted on 05/03/2012 4:43:10 AM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: MindBender26
I respect your opinion, but simply cannot agree that Mormonism is Satan himself.

Oh?

Based upon what evidence?



KJV
Galatians 1:6-9
6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 
ANYBODY???
Like this fine looking fellow???
 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 

Like THESE guys??
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 


Ephesians 2:1-2
1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

59 posted on 05/03/2012 4:43:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MindBender26
Has it on the back of his helmet.

Speaking of helmets; do you know WHY the museums have NO helmets on display of the great and final battle?


 
MORMON
Chapter 6

The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.

1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.

2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.

3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired. 

4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.

5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.

6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.

7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.

8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.

9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.

10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.

11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.

12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.

13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.

14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.

15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.

16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:

17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!

18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.

19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!

20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.

21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.

22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.


 
 
Mormon 8:2
And now it came to pass that after the great and tremendous battle at Cumorah, behold, the Nephites who had escaped into the country southward were hunted by the Lamanites, until they were all destroyed.


60 posted on 05/03/2012 4:46:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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