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Understanding Addiction
You Tube ^ | 5/15/2018 | Ted Adamson

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:25:37 PM PDT by tedw

New You Tube Video on Addiction. Basically I am sick and tired of the so-called "experts" spouting off nonsense regarding drug and alcohol addiction.

The most current one I found was a licensed Clincial Psychologist "enlightening" (tongue in check) us that addiction is a "brain disease". You can find his link here:

http://tinyurl.com/d7h5c6q

The problem with these so-called experts is that they understand nothing. They do not recognize the spiritual realm so they reduce these problems to a physiological level.

They do not recognize the existence of demons or evil and the role it plays in addiction. As a consequence they help nobody. At best they adddict people to anonymous and only rarely is anybody ever really helped.

It's time we had a little light on the subject


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: addiction; alcoholism; christianity; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; recovery; spirtitual
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To: momtothree

Good point mom. Dysthymia and manic depression contribute to self medication. Especially in males that wont seek help.. I appreciate your insight..


21 posted on 05/15/2012 7:05:44 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Wrong. I have family mostly Irish with American Indian and they have no problem with alcoholism. None. It is a morality problem—and habituation in young childhood—modeling....or a void that needed filling.

All addictions are to cover fear, lack of love, insecurities. Eating to much-—during boredom or in high stress situations-—they learned to eat when under stress in young childhood to deal with the stress or boredom. It is a habit. Everything a person does becomes habituated if it is repeated enough times.

All behaviors are learned and habituated. Good moral behaviors are learned and habituated. It is why some cultures are better than other. Behaviors that the cultures promote become “normal” and common. They promoted drinking and smoking-—it became common. True some bodies are affected more easily by alcohol but that is no reason to become a slave to anything if you believe in God and have formed strong morals in childhood. Study the stoics.

Cancer victims in the same family were exposed to the same toxins probably. I’ve known women —daughter/mother who got it in the same year. Cancers take decades to manifest-—they were both exposed to the same toxin at the same time. Families are exposed to the same toxins and same influences and modeling of behaviors. If the adults are drinkers, drug addicts, they teach their children to be the same.

It takes an exceptional outsider to rescue children from a family of addicts-—if the child even survives.


22 posted on 05/15/2012 7:11:49 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: goseminoles

“I appreciate your insight”

I appreciate that you battle this disease and do so honorably. I remember being knee high to a grasshopper when my Uncle told me he believed all of us have some sort of “cross to bear”. Some struggle and keep going.. some collapse under the weight. For whatever reason, he collapsed under the weight.


23 posted on 05/15/2012 7:11:49 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
I appreciate that you battle this disease and do so honorably. I remember being knee high to a grasshopper when my Uncle told me he believed all of us have some sort of “cross to bear”. Some struggle and keep going.. some collapse under the weight. For whatever reason, he collapsed under the weight.

Very smart uncle, I too believe this . I am sorry that your Uncle collapsed under the weight of his demons. I have seen how this can happen.

25 posted on 05/15/2012 7:18:31 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: savagesusie

Lucky you.. as I previously stated. I speak of what I know. Maybe you were lucky and I was unlucky.. which knows the facts? I admit I know my liver will be shot out in a year. Do you have proof to the reason of the health of your family?? I can’t explain my situation. Im been to Aa for 20yrs and have been to rehab and detox 7 times.. come walk in my shoes...


26 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:53 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I’m with you, y.

There may or may not be a genetic predisposition to alcohol or drug abuse; there is also a physical addiction which develops over long abuse.

But it is not a ‘disease’ in that you are physically able to prevent yourself from picking up the bottle and drinking it.

People with MS have a disease. They can’t control their movements. People with leukemia can’t get their immune system to work. People with asthma can’t control their breathing. These are REAL diseases.

When I hear alcohol/drug abuse classified as just a disease, I feel resentment on behalf of those with true diseases.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 8:14:46 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: savagesusie
Susie...I hope I'm wrong..but i think you're gonna be in on a whole new “enlightenment” in a few yrs... You don't have that much control of others......*S*
28 posted on 05/15/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Persevero

People with alcoholism can’t control their drinking.


29 posted on 05/15/2012 8:50:15 PM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: wastedyears

As long as you’re not addicted to Justin Bieber music....that would require a full frontal lobotomy.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 9:48:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cumbo78

I have several of them.No doubt more than you including a 1st, second, and third editions.

Just because something is written in the Big Book doesn;t make it true, although MOST AA’s are so brainwashed its hard to reason with them.

I was an AA for over 30 years, and I can tell you with certainty that most dont understand Alcoholism.


32 posted on 05/15/2012 9:50:04 PM PDT by tedw
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To: doc1019

Read a couple of chapters free on google books. If you like it, buy it. If you don’t, then don’t. It doesn’t really matter to me.


33 posted on 05/15/2012 9:52:37 PM PDT by tedw
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To: RacerX1128

Myth.

See the book “Heavy Drinkin, the Myth of Alcholism as a Disease” for the case studies.


34 posted on 05/15/2012 9:55:21 PM PDT by tedw
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To: tedw

Gee, what a sympathetic response. Makes me want to just jump all over this book. Thanks anyway.


35 posted on 05/15/2012 10:03:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: RacerX1128

“People with alcoholism can’t control their drinking.”

I disagree.

I think it is unusually hard to control it.

However, there is no machine forcing the hand to grip the bottle, take it to their lips, swallow. Will is involved.

As opposed to the person with a migraine; they can’t will it away. A person with kidney failure can’t make his kidneys work by making a decision, however difficult. A person with IBS can’t make their bowels function properly.

An alcoholic is not the moral equivalent to a man with pancreatic cancer. The man with pancreatic cancer REALLY has a disease that he himself can not stop from advancing. An alcoholic is capable of not drinking again. It would be way harder for him not to drink today than for me; I grant you that. Still, it can be done.

So there is a big difference.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 10:06:22 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: doc1019

Some of the response to my post were somewhat nasty. I should have responded better to you.

Here is what one reviewer said:

Excerpt;

“I have never read such an honest and clear account of a life that went down the “wrong path”. Agree with him or not, I couldn’t help but be moved by his openness and willingness to share it all and not hold back. I wasn’t reading a book. I was digging into his mind, and maybe even his soul. It has changd my perspective on addiction and the people with addiction, and it will change yours. A must read!”——5 Stars, Carol at the Book Nook Club.”

Another review:

Midwest Book Review

“Addiction can tear apart our lives. “Up From Down: A True Story of Recovery From Addiction” is a memoir from Ted Adamson as he discusses his battles with heroin addiction, as he his story with a no holds barred look at addicton and the damage it can do to our lives. Frank and honest, he hopes his story will ring true with other addicts and help them find their way through. “Up From Down” is an excellent and thoughtful memoir , not to be overlooked.”

More reviews on my website:

http://www.upfromdown.info/bookreviews.htm


37 posted on 05/15/2012 10:12:09 PM PDT by tedw
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To: dfwgator

I’d rather jump into a volcano than listen to pop music.


38 posted on 05/16/2012 12:36:41 AM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: tedw

The answer is to turn to Jesus for the Lord WILL FREE you.


39 posted on 05/16/2012 2:46:40 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tedw; All

Heart of the Father ministries website:

http://heartofthefather.com/


40 posted on 05/16/2012 2:50:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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