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The hidden exodus: Catholics becoming Protestants
NCR ^ | Apr. 18, 2011 | Thomas Reese

Posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Gamecock

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To: stpio
"Open" RF debate is in a town square format and often becomes contentious. Thick skin is required.

Posters may argue for or against dieties, beliefs, religious authorities, etc. on "open" Religion Forum threads. They may ridicule such things.

What one poster believes to be absolute truth, e.g. "Catholics worship Mary" - may be a damnable lie to another poster.

Posters may condemn or be antagnostic toward groups of believers. For instance, they may say "Buddhists are nuts" but they must not say "You're nuts."

I can and do intervene to keep posters from making it personal, but there is nothing I can do to keep posters from taking it personally.

If "open" RF debate is offensive to you, then you should IGNORE "open" RF threads altogether and instead post to RF threads labeled "ecumenical" "caucus" "prayer" or "devotional."

Click on my profile page for more guidelines to the Religion Forum.

1,441 posted on 06/08/2012 9:31:33 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: count-your-change

LOL! I was getting a vision of a cat toy being batted around.


1,442 posted on 06/08/2012 11:35:56 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Sometimes it’s difficult to take seriously what is posted here. Oh my my my.


1,443 posted on 06/09/2012 12:23:53 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: stpio
metmom asked for the Scripture concerning the anti-Christ’s plan to abolish the Eucharist. It is the “abomination of desolation” written in Daniel.

not even close.

Maybe, if it’s okay, I’ll post any Protestant messages from Heaven that line up with Catholic prophecy. They all do but something very obvious.

Don't bother. We're interested in the truth, not the vague meaningless ramblings of someone who thought they heard from God and is spewing stuff contrary to Scripture. By that alone, we know the source and it isn't God.

1,444 posted on 06/09/2012 12:30:25 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio; xone
xone: “You’d think a Roman Catholic might have seen that word before. Krakatoa’s me up.”

People are more loving in the secular threads!

Actually, it's really pretty funny and hardly *unloving*.

Geology and history weren't your strong suit in high school, were they?

1,445 posted on 06/09/2012 12:33:21 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio; xone
xone: “You’d think a Roman Catholic might have seen that word before. Krakatoa’s me up.”

People are more loving in the secular threads!

The RF is not for the thin skinned. Maybe you'd better avoid it. Stick to the secular threads.

1,446 posted on 06/09/2012 12:34:28 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio
ooops, I need to clear up the post.....

metmom asked for the Scripture concerning the anti-Christ’s plan to abolish the Eucharist.

I did ask for Scripture to back up that statement.

It is the “abomination of desolation” written in Daniel.

That's not even close.

Jesus died once for all and is now seated in heaven at the right hand of God interceding for the saints, that is all us true believers in Him who are saved by faith.

Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins. It's not Jesus' suffering and dying that remits sins, but his finished death.

It's a pity that the Catholics *celebrate* His suffering and dying. His suffering and dying is hardly something to *celebrate* although His death is something to remember.

If the eucharist gives eternal life, then why do Catholics have to keep eating it every Sunday. Why isn't once enough? Where did Jesus ever say that?

And where did Jesus leave instructions on the proper procedure, words and motions, to change the bread and cup into His body and blood?

The gospel accounts merely relate Jesus taken the bread and cup and passing it around with instruction to eat and drink. No robes, no motions, no words, no *proper* procedure or it is ineffective. Why the whole ceremony of the mass when Jesus made it so simple? Where did all that come from?

1,447 posted on 06/09/2012 12:48:10 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: xone; metmom; Religion Moderator

People are more loving in the secular threads!

“Actually, it’s really pretty funny and hardly *unloving*.

Geology and history weren’t your strong suit in high school, were they?”

~ ~ ~

Blessings to you guys, I love you.

It’s not whether someone is too “thin Skinned” for
RF, this is the very place we should be more like Christ.

The allowed “hits” put into a question are just the opposite...to following Our Lord.

And from the Gospel, Jesus said...”till thou repay the last farthing”, we have to account for everything we do and say.


1,448 posted on 06/09/2012 12:01:53 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio; xone

Jesus paid for all our sin.

We don’t pay for it.

That’s something that Catholics just don’t get. If you have to pay for your sin, you’ll be paying for all eternity because the wages of sin is death.

Forgiveness is forgiveness. There is no more sin to pay for with forgiveness. It’s a gift offered freely to us for the taking.

Someone being thin skinned and taking offense at something is not a sin on someone else’s part.

You DO know what Vesuvius was, don’t you? And Krakatoa?

A google search will help.

It was funny. And harmless.


1,449 posted on 06/09/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Religion Moderator

“Click on my profile page for more guidelines to the Religion Forum.”

~ ~ ~

I hadn’t looked at anyone’s profile page so I check yours
and I noticed an answer to one of my questions for you.

Hmmm...your profile and effort for the forum are extensive!

I don’t know how to say it but I went for a Rosary walk
right after reading it and kept thinking about you and how each of us, we all love Our Lord, Protestant and Catholic. We witness for Christ in our own way. Some of us just a little and others much more.

I know of a discussion forum, it’s so far out there. FR is a choir, not many disbelievers.


1,450 posted on 06/09/2012 12:45:41 PM PDT by stpio
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To: metmom

“That’s something that Catholics just don’t get. If you have to pay for your sin, you’ll be paying for all eternity because THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH.

Forgiveness is forgiveness. There is no more sin to pay for with forgiveness. It’s a gift offered freely to us for the taking.”

~ ~ ~

Taking part of a Scripture verse to profess a falsehood?
Pretty vague besides, whatever, it’s not true. Salvation isn’t a free gift, God’s grace is.

What about your serious sins committed today or yesterday?

Saturday, June 9, 2012

Holiness Is Not An Option, It Is A Requirement For Entry Into Paradise

My Children,

I Am that I Am. I Am the Alpha and the Omega. I Am. Rejoice. I come before you in glory. I desire to instruct you for you are mine. My Little Ones, open your hearts to Me. I knock on the door of your hearts this instant. Open your hearts, and surrender to Me. Give Me permission to transfigure you. Give Me permission to heal you, and to minister to you this day. I never leave you. Know that I see all things, and understand what you are going through. Know that I must purify you with fire, with trials, and tribulations for many of you have grown distant, abandoned My precepts, and broken My most holy commandments. I will refine you, each and every one of you until you reach perfection. You are My heirs, and perfection must be your ultimate goal. Holiness is not an option, it is a requirement for entry into Paradise. You would do well to remember this, and to change your ways. Grow in love. Truly I telly you, holiness is love made manifest hundred fold. Holiness is love perfected. I call you to love. One more time, I invite you to love as never before. Love. Do all things in love. Be patient. Do not let your hearts be troubled. I know your progress. I know your shortcomings, and I will bless you along the way. Rejoice. Celebrate this advancement in love. Celebrate love. I place My seal upon your hearts, and lips. I leave you My kiss of peace.
Shalom

http://www.jabezinaction.blogspot.com


1,451 posted on 06/09/2012 10:40:40 PM PDT by stpio
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To: All

2 Maccabbees 6:16
He never withdraws his mercy from us. Although he disciplines us with misfortunes, he does not abandon his own people.

June 3, 2012

“Be not afraid, my children! Is it more merciful to allow sinners to persist in sin, or to put an end to an age of sin through chastisement? Know and believe that your Lord is merciful above all and seeks to call ALL sinners to righteousness. If they will not listen to the voice of God in his Church, they will listen to him in calamity. The children of this age persist in darkness. But the darkness can never vanquish the light. Light always triumphs. Therefore—rejoice! I say it again—rejoice! For your Lord is near and he comes to rule the world with justice and the peoples with fairness.”

http://www.pelianito.stblogs.com


1,452 posted on 06/09/2012 10:59:23 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
Holiness Is Not An Option, It Is A Requirement For Entry Into Paradise

Exactly. Which is why nobody can get into heaven.

All it takes is ONE sin to damn us. If all we ever committed one sin in our entire lives and lead a perfectly holy life for the rest of it, it STILL wouldn't be enough. All it took was one sin for Adam and Eve to bring sin into the world and get them kicked out.

So, even if the rest of my life were perfectly pure and holy, I couldn't get in because it's too late.

James 2:8-11 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. 11 For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

That's why it's not by our works that we're saved. Because we've already transgressed the Law and it's on our record. The only way to enter heaven is to have the record erased and that's what Jesus' death accomplished.

Colossians 2:13-15 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

1,453 posted on 06/10/2012 5:49:51 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: All

Hi, Catholics care...

No use to discuss our differences, nobody has budged in
their belief. This is why God has to act (the Great Warning *Rev 6:15-17*) to bring Christianity together and non believers to the faith.

Remember, you can begin to consider, to change on three
things of faith, #1, believe in the Eucharist, confession
to a Priest and in Mary’s help. Three means to the greatest
graces. On the last, you don’t accept it now but the Blessed Trinity has given Mary all graces to dispense. From the heart, it’s prophesied, do NOT go with those who will REJECT the 5th Marian Dogma when it is proclaimed.

Mary belongs to us all, you didn’t personally, stupid men rejected Our Lord’s mother to distance themselves from the faith, Roman Catholicism. You can have the love of both,
Our Lord and Mary. Mary is waiting to help you, you only have to ask her in prayer.

A friend reminded me, Protestants and Catholics agree, it is the power of prayer that brings conversion. And look,
in a message given a seer in Brazil, Our Lady says too.

April 15, 2012

...Pray, pray, pray for the Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI, for all the Clergy, for all the religious men and women, for all mankind.

Pray for the atheists and pagans, time is running out.

Pray for the Holy Church founded by Jesus Christ, unity and prayer.

Help the Holy Father the Pope to seek the sheep, who are away. You MUST NOT seek for them with WORDS, but with PRAYER, the prayer already contains strength to bring them. That’s why I call you to prayer, is to help you and to help your brothers. The power of prayer performs great miracles...

http://www.afterthewarning.com/WebPages/BeforeTheWarning/MessagesFromHeaven/DarlyChagas.aspx#06-11-12


1,454 posted on 06/11/2012 2:29:08 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

ding dong, bye bye


1,455 posted on 02/04/2015 12:07:45 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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