Posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Gamecock
Catholics vote for what you just described, Evangelicals vote against it, it is why some would leave what you described and seek what they believe to be a deeper, more conservative form of worship, and congregation.
I have been meaning to post for years on something like that, it goes beyond the service, you brought up a very good point that can be much elaborated on.
I just posted this in another thread and is appropriate
here. It doesn’t matter the exodus now...
God knows what is going to happen. It’s been awhile, in my reading them, for fourteen years the Catholic messages from Heaven and the Protestant point to..are in preparation for one thing...the Remnant is Roman Catholic. The world is close to the Great Tribulation, the end of the 6th Day.
My advise, pray, repent from the heart and confess your
mortal sins. Believe in the Holy Eucharist and any misunderstandings about the faith will fall away.
God has always desired everyone believe the same. He is
going to help (free will is a gift) make it happen with
the “Warning.”
I put one word in CAPS.
~ ~ ~
God Speaks Will You Listen
11/06/07
...Hence lukewarm Catholics will persecute my faithful Catholics. After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America, and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely. My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the antichrist to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not
progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does not partake of my Eucharist REMAINS a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the antichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide...
http://wwwgodspeakswillyoulisten.org/
The people who leave the Catholic Church are badly catechized. If they knew the faith, they would not leave.
The Church is going to experience her crucifixion but after,
in the new time, the Millennium, everyone will believe in
Our Lord’s presence in the Eucharist.
You are absolutely welcome to have all the regular National Catholic Fishwrap (a/k/a NCR) readers that you’d like. If you can do something with them, all the better to you.
I have never met a “former Catholic” who attributed their loss of faith to theology or unfulfillment (though some Catholics complain about both); every “former Catholic” I know (who actually attends services anywhere else, as opposed to just becoming a non-Mass attending Catholic) did it over personal involvement with the divorce/remarriage question.
Here in NJ our former governor did it after leaving his Catholic wife & child; he went to an Episcopal seminary and moved in with his boyfriend.
Now you have.
Wow. In a time when all of Christianity is under attack from our own government, athiests, gays, Muslims, etc. here we are arguing over who has the greater numbers or who’s losing the greater numbers. We’re right, you’re wrong. Pride. Last time I checked, that was a sin.
We should be above this, FRiends.
I’ve seen them on TV, too; cyber-people are whatever they want to be.
Preach it, sister!!!
Truth hurts, eh?
It’s too bad Catholic have to attempt to have threads that reveal the truth about Catholicism pulled on such petty grounds.
That's what I just love about practicing Catholics. The character of Christ just shines through every post......
Wrong. We want Christ on HIS terms, not the Catholic church's.
badly catechized, skip,
badly catechized, skip,
badly catechized, skip,
badly catechized, skip,
badly catechized, skip,
How many times do you have to be told that that is not true and yet still persist in believing that excuse.
I don't know why it's beyond the comprehension of some that they can know exactly what the RCC church teaches and STILL reject it.
There are former Catholics on board here who used to TEACH catechism classes.
We KNOW what Catholicism teaches and since it doesn't line up with Scripture, we reject it.
My last boss divorced the Church because he didn't like the priest's hospital visits to his daughter (as he explained it - they weren't 'concerned' enough).
Always personal. Nothing to do with theology or faith.
Everything to do with the god in the mirror.
No.
First off, preach it to your fellow Catholics who vote democrat in the elections and have put the likes of Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Schumer, etc into office, those very politicians who ARE attacking this country and Christianity. Catholics vote dem in much higher percentage than other religious groups, and are thus as a group, more culpable in what's happening in this country than others. They need to seriously clean house for that criticism to hold water. I will not align with any group which votes that way.
And we're not into a bragging game here about who's got the greater numbers.
We're telling people why we left the RCC and being called liars on it, as usual.
Some people persist in maintaining that former Catholics left the Catholic church over morals and because they were poorly catechized when person after person on this board is saying that it's over theology and doctrine and discrepancies between Catholic church doctrine and the clear teaching of Scripture. I for one, will not continually be back-handedly called a liar and let it rest.
Catholics engage in the *We’re right, you’re wrong* with the best of them.
People's eternal destiny is at stake if they don't put their faith in Christ alone for their salvation. That certainly trumps what happens in the here and now.
So? You know one reason from one person and all of a sudden ALL former Catholics fit that profile?
Teddy Kennedy was a Catholic, even got a Catholic funeral. Shall we paint all Catholics as a Kennedy, as adulterous, murdering, liars??
Using your standards.......
Well, hmmm.... I have never met a "former Roman catholic" who attributed their loss of faith to anything BUT theology or unfulfillment (though some Roman catholics complain about both); every “former Roamn catholic” I know (who actually attends services anywhere else, as opposed to just becoming a non-Mass attending Roman catholic) did NOT make the move it over personal involvement with the divorce/remarriage question.
So...what we now have is an indication that we run in different circles. I probably know close to 100 of such former Roman catholics. But it doesn't matter if my number is greater than yours, or your number is greater than mine. It does not prove anything except that we run in different circles, so don't fool yourself into thinking that you just provee that Romanism is better than anything else just by the people that you know. How silly when you think about it. If it wasn't, we could easily solve this whole issue and never have to have another thread on it if we just tallied all the FRs here!!!
Even if we were to poll EVERY single former Roman catholic and they gave us a true, complete reason why they left, it would not matter. What matters is that the Lord knows who are His; and that those who are His, by His grace and His grace alone, act in a manner according to which they were called so that others may see that He lives. To this end, He alone will be glorified!
Your post supports my point.
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