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To: HarleyD; wmfights; GiovannaNicoletta; caww
I don't wish to sound rude but on the one hand people are saying that the restoration of Israel is a sign of God's blessings to the people and then on the other hand people are quoting scripture that says they will be desolate until they say, "Blessed be the name of the Lord" and acknowledge Christ. To the best of my knowledge Israel has not acknowledge Christ to be Lord so that should mean they are still in a "desolate" state. It's this reinvention of scripture to suit the moment that I often see among the Catholics. And, yes, they also like to post lots of scripture that has absolutely nothing to do with the premise of the argument.

The point has been all along that Israel WILL remain in unbelief until "the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled", just as Jesus said. The restoration of Israel WILL happen because God says it will and the only reason we are talking about this now is because there are signs, and have been signs, that point to this happening sooner rather than later. The very fact of the nation of Israel being back in their homeland ESTABLISHED as a nation once again from two thousand YEARS of not being a nation is a biggie sign. Israel HAS been desolate because they rejected the Messiah, Jesus Christ, but one day soon (I believe) they will be brought to repentance:

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Zechariah 12:10)

That has not happened yet although there have been many Jews that HAVE believed in Jesus. As a nation, no. But they WILL as a nation, as a people, return to Jehovah and believe in Jesus as their Messiah and be saved. They WILL one day say, "Blessed be the name of the LORD." and God's promises to them, to their father Abraham, will be completely fulfilled.

25 posted on 05/24/2012 9:41:29 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Exactly...I believe this as well and God’s word points clearly to this...

Also, their unbelief is a blessing for us and those yet to come to Christ...Israel is the true branch...we’ve been grafted in.


26 posted on 05/24/2012 11:48:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: boatbums; wmfights; GiovannaNicoletta; caww
The point has been all along that Israel WILL remain in unbelief until "the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled",

I understand that. My point is that WHILE Israel remains in unbelief their house is desolated. God does not bless unbelief. And they will ONLY be blessed when the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled and their unbelief is removed. Not before. So if their house is desolated where is God's kingdom right now?

BTW-Look at what you just said. This is exactly what us Reformers are constantly arguing about and personally drives me crazy. God is in control of who believes and those who cannot see the light. Israel CANNOT see the light UNTIL "the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled". They are like the men of Sodom groping to find Lot's house but never finding it or the Egyptians chasing Israel in the desert but never reaching them unless God's wills it. Just meditate on your statement above and you will see a far larger picture.

27 posted on 05/24/2012 11:53:55 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: boatbums; HarleyD; wmfights; GiovannaNicoletta; caww
As a nation, no. But they WILL as a nation, as a people, return to Jehovah and believe in Jesus as their Messiah and be saved. They WILL one day say, "Blessed be the name of the LORD." and God's promises to them, to their father Abraham, will be completely fulfilled.

Amen!

It's been said many times on these threads about Replacement Theology, but most of the Reformed and Roman Catholics want to ignore it.

31 posted on 05/28/2012 7:09:39 AM PDT by wmfights
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