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To: wmfights; boatbums; GiovannaNicoletta; caww; Lee N. Field
I have consistently stated that I am not prepare to make any calls on eschatology. At the risk of sounding brass or pompous, before coming to ANY doctrinal conclusion I like to make sure that I'm correct. Otherwise I'll leave it for another time and study.

However, IMO there are certain truths that all Christians should understand and adhere to. I should note that these were basic principles I formulated when I became a Christian. Some of these are found here but when Lee or I brought them up they were never answered.

These are truths that seem to be constantly ignored when formulating other doctrine as they have been ignored here. No one seems to want to deal with them in a frank and thoughtful manner which surprises me. One will NEVER reconcile how a "certain hardening" can come upon Israel while maintaining man's free will. They are absolutely opposed. Yet here people don't seem to want to bother with comprehending what the scriptures are actually teaching us.

We are given to having "itching ears" so it is important that we pray for understanding before we make doctrinal decisions. Contrary to popular "God loves me/God loves Israel" mentality, God is very much interested in us formulating a good doctrinal understanding about Him. Yet good sound doctrine seems to be very boring to most people.

God loves us and blesses us ONLY because we are being conformed to the image of His Son-something He is doing by His grace and will. God gives grace to unbelievers but His wrath rests on them-not His blessings. Israel exists today because it was God's will. That doesn't mean that God loves Israel any more than He would have loved the formation of Rome or Nazi Germany which was also His doing. It simply mean that there is a divine purpose in all of this.

I would suggest we all listen to Lee's audiofiles in post 30.

33 posted on 05/28/2012 5:43:21 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; wmfights; boatbums; GiovannaNicoletta; caww; Dr. Eckleburg
I would suggest we all listen to Lee's audiofile in post 30.

One of the things I like about the typical eschatology presentation from the folks I listen to is that they deal much more with the sweep of redemptive history, and the first coming of Christ, than the typical dispensational presentation. Gospel saturated.

The one I pointed to is an example of that.

Will they listen?

35 posted on 05/28/2012 6:53:25 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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