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To: nonsporting
I do not think so.

I'm not surprised.

So, "all Israel" consists of believing Gentiles and believing Jews. It does not consist of non-believers, regardless of their fleshly descent. ("Neither because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children." And "They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God.").

Maybe a closer review of the posted thread will help you see that what you are claiming is not what is written.

In this article the author is clearly showing that the verses noted indicate Israel will be redeemed.

The problem for the Replacement Theologists is these verses indicate the Lord is not done with Israel and for Replacement Theology to be correct the Lord must be done with them.

I would point you to this part of the passage the author is discussing:

v.39...you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!' "

8 posted on 05/22/2012 5:33:43 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights
The problem for the Replacement Theologists is these verses indicate the Lord is not done with Israel and for Replacement Theology to be correct the Lord must be done with them.

I wonder if such a boogieman as you-all keep talking about, really exists.

And, I wonder, "is there a problem with the acoustics in here?"* What does it take to get the F.R. dispensational cacophonous chorus to understand what we're getting at?

See my post here. And, get the Ridderbos book Vlach references ("used from $6.48"!), and read the chapter that Vlach carefully picks his quote from, on "the Church as the People of God". He deals with everything you're asking about.

*A notable quip from Thomas Sowell on Bill Buckley's old Firing Line Program, after repeating an answer twice that his interloquter (I think, J. K. Galbreath) didn't seem to understand.

10 posted on 05/22/2012 6:25:01 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: wmfights
LOL!!!

It never fails, does it? No matter how many times they are proven wrong, no matter how many times their demonic doctrine is shot to bits, no matter how many times it is proven that they have not one shred of Scripture to support their false beliefs, they keep going like the Energizer Bunny.

The bottom line is that if the Bible as God wrote it is true, then replacement theologists and all others who curse God's chosen people and deny Scripture are doomed to eternity separated from God. It is desperation that makes them surface on each and every thread to deny that proves that God has future plans for His people and His nation and that God will keep His promises to His people, and that He is not finished with Israel or the Jews.

Replacement theologists claim that God lies, that God deceives, and that God does not keep His promises, which, of course, includes the promise He made to those who trust in Him as Savior. Just like Satan they deny Scripture and they will suffer Satan's fate.

Thank you, wmfights, for your perseverance in getting Biblical truth to those who will read it and accept it. And when the non-Christians come on the thread to deny Christ and His word, know that you are doing something right or Satan would not be trying to silence you.

13 posted on 05/23/2012 2:24:57 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: wmfights
Maybe a closer review of the posted thread will help you see that what you are claiming is not what is written.

Did you read the article? Here is the article's conclusion:

This rejection [of Israel] is not final and ultimate; the day will come when Israel will say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord’ (vv. 37–39). The Kingdom of God is not taken from the Jews that they might be forever abandoned; ‘all Israel’ is yet to be saved and brought within the redemptive purpose of God.

He makes the very mistake I'm pointing out and redefines what "all Israel" means, after Paul has gone to such great lengths to define it!

The problem for the Replacement Theologists is these verses indicate the Lord is not done with Israel and for Replacement Theology to be correct the Lord must be done with them.

The problem with the Zionist (and the Replacement Theologist) is that they disregard what the Bible actually says about the commonwealth of Israel, and how God intends to save "all Israel".

For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.(Romans 11:32)

If you are still struggling with what Romans 11:6ff means, read Galatians 3 and 4.

22 posted on 05/24/2012 4:17:13 PM PDT by nonsporting
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