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Catholics, Evangelicals May Coordinate on Religious Freedom Event This Summer
The Christian Post ^ | 5/24/12 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 05/25/2012 6:28:25 AM PDT by marshmallow

The U.S. Catholic Church will hold an event this summer called "Fortnight for Freedom" to bring attention to religious freedom issues. The Christian Post has learned that discussions are underway to include evangelical organizations with these events. Evangelical organizations have expressed solidarity with Catholic leaders who oppose the Obama administration's birth control mandate, which, they argue, is a religious freedom issue.

In separate interviews, Sister Mary Ann Walsh, a spokesperson for the USCCB, and Galen Carey, vice president for government relations at the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), both confirmed that discussions have taken place on how evangelicals might coordinate events with Catholics for "Fortnight for Freedom," but nothing has been finalized.

The Catholic bishops "have invited us to join them," Carey said Tuesday. "There have been discussions, we're not exactly sure what form that might take, but we certainly have expressed our solidarity with Catholics on [the religious freedom] issue."

"Fortnight for Freedom" will take place for two weeks this summer and end on the Fourth of July holiday.

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1 posted on 05/25/2012 6:28:32 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

You could hold a massive event and I’ll bet the MSM will hardly cover it. Still sounds like a good idea.


2 posted on 05/25/2012 6:31:23 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL

There are significant issues of disagreement amongst Catholics and Evangelical Protestants, but the opposition coming from Washington is rallying both groups to focus on their common love of Christ and His commands.


3 posted on 05/25/2012 6:52:36 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: marshmallow

Persecution brings unity


4 posted on 05/25/2012 6:55:56 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: marshmallow

Ben Franklin:

“We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”


5 posted on 05/25/2012 7:09:54 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
significant issues of disagreement

In my humble opinion what we agree on is of much more significance, especially in the long term and broader picture. One may have profound disagreements with one's brother but at the end of the day, claiming the same Father and His Son as King, we are still "family".

6 posted on 05/25/2012 7:32:11 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: marshmallow
We're having a united Catholic/Baptist Rally for Religious Freedom here in Johnson City, TN on Thursday, June 21. Metro-Kiwanis Park, at the Arch of Friendship Activity Area. 6:00 - 7:00 p.m.

Y'all come.

7 posted on 05/25/2012 7:32:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The King's good servant, but God's first.")
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To: marshmallow

When did “Protestants” become “Evangelicals?”

I’ll tell you when: when the MSM found it more helpful to describe American churchgoers as... well, overly-enthusiastic in their beliefs. Because churchgoers actually oppose abortion and such! ...Can we call them “crazy?” We really should call them “crazy.”

Oh, we can’t call them crazy? Well, since they’re so enthusiastic about spreading their crazy faith, let’s at least call them “Evangelicals.” Everyone on board with that? OKAY!

I think FReepers should adopt the common-sense, age-old policy of calling Protestants “Protestants.”

Don’t ever let the MSM change the words we use for common things.


8 posted on 05/25/2012 8:03:50 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

There has obviously been a huge divergence in Protestantism between the liberal churches, who support abortion, homosexuality, etc., and the more orthodox, Biblical churches. “Evangelical” has come to be used to describe the latter.


9 posted on 05/25/2012 8:46:30 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Blue Ink; marshmallow; iowamark
When did “Protestants” become “Evangelicals?”
I’ll tell you when: when the MSM found it more helpful to describe American churchgoers as... well, overly-enthusiastic in their beliefs. Because churchgoers actually oppose abortion and such! ...Can we call them “crazy?” We really should call them “crazy.”

Oh, we can’t call them crazy? Well, since they’re so enthusiastic about spreading their crazy faith, let’s at least call them “Evangelicals.” Everyone on board with that? OKAY!

What people call “the MSM” is actually, centrally, wire service journalism. The conversation you posit may not have literally occurred, but in a virtual reality sense, it did. It occurred via the Associated Press newswire, where promoting criticism (journalism’s forte) over performance (the province of the “private sector”) is de rigeur.  
"People of the same trade seldom meet together even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public or some contrivance to raise prices." - Adam Smith
“The wire” is a continuous, 24/7 “meeting” of "people of the same trade.” It is nothing more than natural that it functions as "a conspiracy against the public."
I think FReepers should adopt the common-sense, age-old policy of calling Protestants “Protestants.”

Don’t ever let the MSM change the words we use for common things.

Our political lexicon is hopelessly corrupted by journalist-promoted Newspeak. “Liberal” used to describe people like us, who oppose big government. But in America, "liberalism" was given its American Newspeak - essentially inverted - meaning in the 1920s (source: Safire's New Political Dictionary). The fact that the American socialists have acquired a word to exploit is bad enough; the real disaster is that we do not now have a word which truly descriptive of our own political perspective. We only have the smear words which the socialists have assigned to us.

And make no mistake, in America "conservative" is inherently a negative connotation - we know that just as surely as we know that every American marketer loves to boldly proclaim that whatever product he is flogging is NEW!


10 posted on 05/25/2012 10:25:35 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Blue Ink

It seems a little useless to depend solely on ‘members of the Catholic church’ and ‘the vast diversity of all non-Catholic Christianity’ when discussing religion in America.


11 posted on 05/25/2012 11:25:38 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: marshmallow
Who knows? Maybe Catholics will learn that Fundamentalist Evangelicals aren't the sub-human monstrosities they've been brainwashed into believing they are (by a Catholic press that can't bring itself to attack Catholic Democrat abortion supporters) and "Fundamentalists" will stop being public enemy number one.

Or . . . Fundamentalist Protestants might learn what Catholics really think of them and, after doing a little historical research into the ahistoricity of Protestantism, may begin to question some of their own chrstian assumptions.

It's going to be an interesting summer.

12 posted on 05/25/2012 12:14:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: katana

“In my humble opinion what we agree on is of much more significance, especially in the long term and broader picture.”

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Agreed, this is unquestionably so, yet the focus is constantly placed on the perhaps 5% of Doctrine on which we disagree.


13 posted on 05/25/2012 12:18:54 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: marshmallow

Good. I don’t agree with everything my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ believe (otherwise I’d be Catholic) but surely we can and must stand together in the name of freedom to worship the Risen Lord Jesus Christ in a manner we choose.


14 posted on 05/25/2012 12:22:23 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; EternalVigilance; ansel12
The "subhuman monstrosities" are Obozo and Myth. Myth's religioun and Obozo's lack thereof are not the issue for me. If, as a Catholic, I thought such nasty things of my Evangelical brothers and sisters in Christ, I would not have represented them, according to THEIR beliefs in criminal prosecutions when they were arrested saving babies and I would not be voting for Tom Hoefling, our own Eternal Vigilance.

Evangelicals may well find out how highly many Catholics esteem them and their witness for Christ. We've got their backs and increasingly, they have had ours. The actual Catholic Press is brutal and rightfully so on "Catholic" Demonrat abortion lovers. We want the "Catholic" pro-abort politicos excommunicated by the diocesan ordinaries, denied the Eucharist, publicly humiliated and defeated by embarrassingly large margins.

May the recently deceased pro-life heroes the Rev. Mr. Charles Colson and Fr. Norman Weslin plead all of our cases before the Throne of God now and forever.

15 posted on 05/25/2012 1:03:03 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; EyeGuy

May God bless both of you and yours!


16 posted on 05/25/2012 1:05:19 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: BlackElk; Zionist Conspirator
I'm happy to say that America's Party has been very successful at keeping denominational differences outside the door. Our leadership across the country, all of whom are pledged to support America's founding principles without compromise, is about fifty-fifty Catholic and Protestant, with a few Mormons and Jews thrown into the mix.

What binds us together?

America's founding paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

And the Constitution of the United States:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

17 posted on 05/25/2012 1:38:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: BlackElk

And you and yours, my FRiend.


18 posted on 05/25/2012 1:50:30 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: BlackElk; EternalVigilance
Black Elk: Thank you for your kind words. If Catholics have Evangelicals' backs that's good news. Unfortunately, many Catholic FReepers choose to respond to Fundamentalist theological disagreement not with theological argument but with the liberal charge of "bigotry" and with ethno-cultural slurs about "Cletus," "snake-handlers," "Bobble-toters," and "Billy Bob's Glory Barn." At least one of your co-religionists has also insisted that Fundamentalists aren't smart enough to be Catholics, and as someone who tried at one time I am quite prepared to believe him, though I wish Catholics would make up their minds as to whether the Catholic religion is for literally everyone or else for a tiny Mensa-class elite of intellectuals. Unfortunately, converts to Catholicism are not given the opportunity to be illiterate Honduran peasants but are required to be philosophers on the level of Aquinas, Newman, and Chesterton.

I have been toying with the idea of asking you something for a while now, and now since I have your attention I suppose I should take advantage of the situation and do so. I am aware that you are quite hostile to "traditionalist" Catholic groups such as SSPX (and I'm certainly no fan of their vicious anti-Semitism), but there's something I don't understand: you seem to be more like them in your own beliefs than you are to mainstream Catholics, especially in America. How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance of opposing people who believe more like you do and championing a pope who is an evolutionist and a Teilhardian? (See this article critiquing the current Pope's modernism.) I myself could not stomach being in communion with liberals or modernists, and (as I have said so often) even if I had remained in the Catholic Church the behavior of most Catholic FReepers would have long ago shamed and embarrassed me out of it.

However, I'm not totally a big anti-Catholic meanie. Plsease see this post of mine in which I defend traditional Catholics and criticize liberal (or at least hypocritical) Jewish "dialogue partners.

EternalVigilance, thank you for your post as well.

19 posted on 05/25/2012 2:44:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: iowamark

‘“Evangelical” has come to be used to describe the latter.’

Yeah, and it’s pejorative. In the public mind, it means “religious whack-job.” There’s no reason for all Protestants, theological differences aside on abortion, not to be described as Protestant.

Describing a particular church as “evangelical” is a way to marginalize them.


20 posted on 05/26/2012 1:45:19 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Zionist Conspirator; BlackElk

Oh goodness. The most long-winded Freeper is communicating with the second most long winded Freeper. FR had better up their servers big-time. You guys can freakin babble.


21 posted on 05/27/2012 5:29:28 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813
Jeffie:

Being a lifelong Jets fan as you confess to being, is as much battering and punishment as any person can suffer. If you feel the need for more suffering, root for the Red Sux.

Zionist Conspirator and I seldom really see eye to eye but ZC is a gentleman and makes sometimes useful contributions here.

You, on the other hand......

22 posted on 05/27/2012 7:46:20 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Meant to ping you to #22


23 posted on 05/27/2012 7:47:57 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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