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Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA stands behind LCWR
http://ncronline.org/blogs/sisters-under-scrutiny/roman-catholic-womenpriests-usa-stands-behind-lcwr ^ | Jun. 04, 2012 | Alice Popovici

Posted on 06/06/2012 7:42:34 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan

In a statement released Friday, Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA says it supports the LCWR's response to the Vatican report. Here's what the organization wrote: The entire membership of Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA (RCWP) proudly stands in solidarity with the Leadership Conference of Women Religious and fully supports the actions that the LCWR will be taking in response to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith report. RCWP believes that as a matter of justice, the CDF mandate must be discussed openly and candidly with the LCWR membership. We will continue to pray with and for Pat Farrell, OSF, President of LCWR and Janet Mock, CSJ, Executive Director, as they prepare to meet with the CDF prefect Cardinal William Levada and the apostolic delegate Archbishop Peter Sartain to raise and discuss the concerns brought forward by the LCWR board at their recent meeting. We will continue to pray with and for all of the members of LCWR as they continue to discern their individual and collective responses to the CDF directive. Roman Catholic Womenpriests (RCWP) is an international movement within the Roman Catholic Church. The mission of Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA is primarily to spiritually prepare, ordain in Apostolic Succession, and support women who are called by the Holy Spirit and their communities to a renewed priestly ministry rooted in justice and faithfulness to the Gospel.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: lcwr; pretendpriests; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 06/06/2012 7:42:39 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Sure would love to see the Pope file suit to force these idiots to stop using RC in their name/literature since they are greatly harming ‘the brand’.


2 posted on 06/06/2012 7:49:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Here's a clue ladies - you are heading fast for excommunication.
3 posted on 06/06/2012 7:50:20 PM PDT by Apercu ("Obama is graffiti on the wall of American History")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

The delusions of these people! LOL!! Amazing! Who cares what they think.


4 posted on 06/06/2012 7:54:17 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

If you want women priests, become an Episcopalian.


5 posted on 06/06/2012 7:55:54 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
feh... there's no such thing
6 posted on 06/06/2012 8:09:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: La Lydia

Or create your own church. Just don’t call yourselves Roman Catholic because you are not.


7 posted on 06/06/2012 8:24:39 PM PDT by girlfreer
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

These irrational women should be excommunicated. How dare they act like there is no difference between men and women when they have obviously read the Bible. They must hate men and hate their own bodies.—That means they hate God—the Designer.

They should not be able to call themselves Catholic, since they are godless.


8 posted on 06/06/2012 8:47:56 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: girlfreer
Or create your own church. Just don’t call yourselves Roman Catholic because you are not.

The LCWR (Leadership Conference of Women Religious) which claim to represent 80% of American Nuns has been called onto the carpet by the CDF (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) for doctrinal deviation, error and scandal. The LCWR went into full denial mode. Then these so called Catholic women Priests came out in full support of the LCWR.

I find it ironic to say the least. Their timing could not have been worse for the LCWR. Oh the humanity! Ha.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 8:57:46 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Being a priest or pastor is not “just another job”.

God set the qualifications. Husband of one wife was one of them. This qualification inherently implies a spiritual leader of the church is a man. (Who can be married.)

Several places indicate qualifications for church leaders. All are defined as male.

There are plenty of other positions in the church that are ministerial positions open to women, some only open to women. There are no male nuns, for example.

The fact is while we are all made equal in Christ, that still doesn’t mean each sex doesn’t have specific God-given roles to perform. Men and women are called to minister, but some roles are reserved just for men and some for women. In the end God, who is the Head of His Church, gets to define the criteria for the people who would serve Him.

I would finally point out not all men are qualified to be leaders in a church. The criteria weed out many. Is it fair that not all men can be a pastor, even those who really, really want to, if they can’t meet God’s criteria? Can they still find other ways to minister within the church? Of course they can.


10 posted on 06/06/2012 9:13:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: La Lydia

They can join PC-USA, Methodists, ELCA, MCC, and a bunch more. There are plenty of churches no longer following biblical criteria for pastors.


11 posted on 06/06/2012 9:15:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: savagesusie

Those “Womenpriests” already excommunicated themselves. The Roman Catholic Church just needs to do the paperwork to make it all legal-like.


12 posted on 06/06/2012 9:23:08 PM PDT by JeffChrz (Why are college kids worried about an interest rate doubling instead of tuition doubling?)
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To: Apercu

RCW-USA has already been officially excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church. They have been so for man y years and have no sanction from Rome.


13 posted on 06/06/2012 9:38:00 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JeffChrz

They should do it quick! This radical egalitarianism which wants to make men and women interchangeable is Marxist-—and godless. No Designer of man and woman.

Next they will want to have children born in test tubes and raised by the government drones like in their utopian Brave New World-——no nurturing mother or protective father— ...Complete destruction of Natural Law Theory and the nurturing that a child needs to be emotionally and physically healthy.

Women are not emotionally or physically the same as men. To pretend they are the same, is a lie.


14 posted on 06/06/2012 9:38:19 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Roman Catholic Womenpriest

A mythological creature.

15 posted on 06/06/2012 9:52:51 PM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Heretics.


16 posted on 06/06/2012 10:33:02 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Heretics.


17 posted on 06/06/2012 10:33:23 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I come to the “Reiigion” forum to see this?


18 posted on 06/07/2012 2:41:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Apercu

excommunication isn’t the problem: Their problem is the peril to their immortal souls. Sigh.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 4:18:28 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

They may as well call themselves the Alice in Wonderland Priestesses. They are not Roman Catholic priests!!!!!


20 posted on 06/07/2012 8:21:33 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Secret Agent Man
God set the qualifications. Husband of one wife was one of them.

Incorrect. Suggest you reread 1 Timothy.

21 posted on 06/07/2012 10:32:39 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Apercu

They’ve already been excommunicated.


22 posted on 06/07/2012 10:33:43 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Having the womynpriests stick up for the flaky nuns is like having NAMBLA stick up for Jerry Sandusky.


23 posted on 06/07/2012 1:51:15 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Fixing the headline

Roman Catholic

CINO Womenpriests-USA stands behind LCWR

24 posted on 06/07/2012 3:13:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Roman Catholic Womenpriests-USA stands behind LCWR
Nun Too Accurate Reporting

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Priests Come to Nuns’ defense
Leaders of U.S. Catholic Nuns to Address Vatican Reprimand About 'Radical' Feminism
Split over nuns' role plays out online (LCWR nuns complain about blogosphere)
ANOTHER WAY TO BEAUTIFY THE CHURCH or 10 REASONS NUNS SHOULD WEAR HABITS (Warning-graphic images)
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Important Background Information About the CDF-LCWR Situation
Nuns Gone Wild: A Trip Down Memory Lane
Exhibit A for Explaining the LCWR Report
Vatican Crackdown on U.S. Nuns a Long Time Brewing
LCWR: getting to the truth of the matter (the blogosphere response to CDF document)
Radical feminist nuns’ group ‘stunned’ by Vatican criticisms, reform plan
Vatican announces reform of US women's religious conference (more details)
Citing doctrinal problems, Vatican announces reforms of US nuns' group
In hard-hitting document Vatican launches clean-up of feminist nuns in United States
LCWR Having a Bad Day. Vatican Names Archbishop Delegate to Continue Watching LCWR and Network

25 posted on 06/07/2012 3:15:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: married21
Having the womynpriests stick up for the flaky nuns is like having NAMBLA stick up for Jerry Sandusky.

good analogy.

26 posted on 06/07/2012 4:58:09 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The qualification is plainly stated.

Now the overseer must be without reproach, the husband of but one wife.

If he’s married, he is/has been married just once to one wife.

Missing the larger point, I was stating that this qualification inherently says a church overseer is a man by definition since the candidate is referred to as a husband.

Thanks for missing the point.


27 posted on 06/07/2012 6:03:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
We shall start with your original assertion and then dissect it and the rest of your comments. Try to sit up high in your chair so this doesn't fly so far over your grape.

Being a priest or pastor is not “just another job”.(emphasis added)

God set the qualifications. Husband of one wife was one of them.

"A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity." 1 Timothy 3:1-4(emphasis added)

Number one, St. Paul is speaking about the office of Bishop, not a "priest or pastor" as you incorrectly claimed. While all Bishops are Priests not all Priests and Pastors are Bishops. Number two, St. Paul, who was a celibate himself; which you conveniently failed to mention, in his counsel to Timothy, does not include the word "must" in his writing. St. Paul would have no authority to require that Timothy select only married men to serve as a Bishop since he himself was not married and he was a Bishop. You are simply wrong regardless of your obstinance.

Following is St. Jerome's commentary on 1 Timothy 3 which you quite obviously have never read.

"Of one wife. The meaning is, not that every bishop should have a wife (for St. Paul himself had none) but that no one should be admitted to the holy orders of bishop, priest, or deacon, who had been married more than once."

The qualification is plainly stated.

Incorrect, once again.

Here's a few more passages from Scripture that you have either never read or purposely choose to ignore.

"But I would have you to be without solicitude. He that is without a wife, is solicitous for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please God. But he that is with a wife, is solicitous for the things of the world, how he may please his wife: and he is divided. And the unmarried woman and the virgin thinketh on the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she that is married thinketh on the things of the world, how she may please her husband. And this I speak for your profit: not to cast a snare upon you; but for that which is decent, and which may give you power to attend upon the Lord, without impediment." 1 Corinthians 7:32-35

"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16

Thanks for missing the point.

Thanks for publicly demonstrating your ignorance of Scripture for all the world to see and for giving me the opportunity to set you straight.

The next time you want to point out that women can't be ordained then quote from a text that isn't corrupted and use the following. You'll look much less foolish.

"Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith. But if they would learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church." 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

28 posted on 06/09/2012 7:07:47 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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