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Iím a Mormon, Not a Christian [Mega hit piece on Christians]
New York Times ^ | June 12, 2012 | David V. Mason

Posted on 06/13/2012 7:46:26 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

................... Mormons seem to be everywhere.

I want to be on record about this. I’m about as genuine a Mormon as you’ll find — a templegoer with a Utah pedigree and an administrative position in a congregation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am also emphatically not a Christian.

-SNIP-

In addition, these Christians had to defend their use of additional scripture and their unconventional conception of God and explain why they were following a bumpkin carpenter from some obscure backwater. Early Christianity’s relationship with non-Jews was even worse. Roman writers frequently alluded to rumors about the cannibalistic and hedonistic elements of early Christian rites. One after the other, Christians went to the lions because they found it impossible to defend themselves against such outrageous accusations. They did eat flesh and drink blood every Sunday, after all.

Eventually, Christianity grew up and conceded that it wasn’t authentic Judaism. Lo and behold, once it had given up its claim to Judaism, it became a state religion — cannibalism notwithstanding — and spent the next 1,700 years getting back at all the bullies who had slighted it when it was a child.

-SNIP-

Whatever happens in November, I hope Mormonism eventually realizes that it doesn’t need Christianity’s approval and will get big and beat up all the imperious Christians who tormented it when it was small, weird and painfully self-conscious. Mormons are certainly Christian enough to know how to spitefully abuse their power.


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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; catholic; hissyfit; lds; mormon; romney
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To: chesley

“Satan has a lot of irons in the fire.”

He does his best soul-destroying work in the area of false religion. Mormonism is one of his better efforts. It’s a killer wrapped in a wholesome, patriotic, family-friendly wrapper with the name of Jesus attached for an extra measure of deception.


61 posted on 06/13/2012 9:32:06 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

eYup, that’s about the size of it.


62 posted on 06/13/2012 9:33:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Great description!


63 posted on 06/13/2012 9:36:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Mormons are NOT Christians. This guy is sowing campaign material for Obama.


64 posted on 06/13/2012 9:38:23 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: greyfoxx39
Cults, Movements, World Religions
Sects and Satanic Cults

65 posted on 06/13/2012 9:38:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: greyfoxx39

They want to alienate all the Christian voters....its a hit piece on Romney. I don’t care what his religion is. At least non of the Morman preachers have never been recorded yelling ‘God Damn America. if that didn’t put a dent in the Obama electorate...this hit piece wont either.


66 posted on 06/13/2012 9:40:41 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: rawcatslyentist
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It is sooo predictable.


The British Empire's victory over the American Rabble under George Washington ... was sooo predictable....

The Japanese victory at the Battle of Midway in 1942 ... was sooo predictable....

Jimmy Carter's victory over Ronald Reagan in 1980 ... was sooo predictable....

Myth Romney's victory over Newt Gingrich and the American TEA Party in the 2012 South Carolina GOP Primary ... was sooo predictable....



I rest my case ...


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67 posted on 06/13/2012 10:00:06 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Dudoight
At least non of the Morman preachers have never been recorded yelling ‘God Damn America

It doesn't appear that you are familiar with the history of mormonism.

From the moment that Joseph Smith invented mormonism, the leaders have been damning Christians and Christianity as late as the 1980s.

Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46
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"...the Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable, ...But with the Bible it was not and is not so....it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization [Christianity],

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13
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Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth."

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 176
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"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199
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"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God"

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 171

Every single day, 52,000 mormon missionaries knock on the doors of Christians and claim that their Christian faith is false and the only way to salvation is through mormon membership and arcane temple rituals.


68 posted on 06/13/2012 10:05:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

I agree.

We’re not geting a Christian in the White House this election. The question is, “Which non-Christian will be the least effective in furthering Satan’s agenda?”


69 posted on 06/13/2012 10:06:47 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: James C. Bennett
So either Christianity is polytheistic or Jesus is not divine...

I have never quite gotten a straight answer from folks who follow that line of reasoning, that deny the Trinity...

70 posted on 06/13/2012 10:07:02 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: James C. Bennett
So either Christianity is polytheistic or Jesus is not divine...

I have never quite gotten a straight answer from folks who follow that line of reasoning, that deny the Trinity...

71 posted on 06/13/2012 10:07:02 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
I pray you're correct.

Myth will just bury us deeper.

72 posted on 06/13/2012 10:13:09 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: ejonesie22

What would you give as an answer to that, yourself?


73 posted on 06/13/2012 10:17:11 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Well, stated.
Which is why mormonism must be exposed, God wants none to perish.


74 posted on 06/13/2012 10:25:47 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39; All
From the article: ...the acrimonious niggling from both sides over the nature of the trinity, the authority of the creeds...

The Mormon author claims to be a temple Mormon. That means to get temple access, he has to tithe. That means he has spent how many $thousands to fund the Lds printed material, the Lds "scriptures," the Lds curricula, the Lds Web site, Lds books, Lds broadcasting material that all repeats the founding Mormon lie based upon the Mormon "First Vision" that "ALL" of the sects' "creeds were an abomination" to the unnamed entities that appeared to Joseph Smith.

So, FIRST Smith labels 100% of the Christian creeds to be an "abomination" -- to be putrid...
...THEN we have a liberal counterfeiter funder who helps to $fund this lie...
...all while complaining that the "authority of the creeds" is "acrimonious niggling."

Well, Rhodes College Theater professor David V. Mason, if you don't want to continue funding the "acrimonious niggling" that the Mormon church has engaged in now for over 175 years in vociferously attacking Christian creeds as being putrid, perhaps you should stop paying for these attacks via your tithes!

(Doncha love it when the funders of this nonsense like to pretend they are somehow "neutral" and "above the fray"???)

75 posted on 06/13/2012 10:30:36 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: ejonesie22; James C. Bennett; All
So either Christianity is polytheistic or Jesus is not divine... I have never quite gotten a straight answer from folks who follow that line of reasoning, that deny the Trinity...

I was aponderin' a quick way to cut to the heart of this matter...you summed it up nicely.

So which is it, James? This Q is not going to go away: Do you deem Jesus as "undivine" -- or is Christianity polytheistic???

By the way, all, this Q works well with Jehovah's Witnesses who come to your door as well.

JWs believe Jesus was "a god" -- but not Almighty Jehovah God.

So you can ask JWs, "Is Jesus 'a god?'"

JW answer: "Yes."

"So Jesus is 'a god,' but not 'Jehovah God.'"

JW answer: "Yes, not Jehovah God."

So how many gods are there?

JW answer: "Well, the Bible says there are many gods; even Satan is 'a god.'"

Is Satan a 'true' god or a 'false' god?

JW answer: "A 'false god.'"

Is Jesus a 'true' god or a 'false' god?

JW answer: "A 'true' god."

How many 'TRUE gods' are there, Mr or Ms. JW?????

(And at that, the JW will usually bail out -- ne'er to be heard from again)

76 posted on 06/13/2012 10:37:17 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I’m about as genuine a Mormon as you’ll find — a templegoer with a Utah pedigree and an administrative position in a congregation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Oh?

Let's see:

Do you eat MEAT in the summertime??


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
 
1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
 
  1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
  3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
  5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
  7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
  8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
  12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
  14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
  15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
  16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
  19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
  20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.



77 posted on 06/13/2012 10:38:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
I’m about as genuine a Mormon as you’ll find — a templegoer with a Utah pedigree and an administrative position in a congregation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Dang!

I was thinking I was dealing with a mere functionary; but NOW I see that you are INDEED a person of great talent and ability; and REsponsibility; too!

78 posted on 06/13/2012 10:40:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
Whatever happens in November, I hope Mormonism eventually realizes that it doesn’t need Christianity’s approval and will get big and beat up all the imperious Christians who tormented it when it was small, weird and painfully self-conscious.

O... K...

 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
 
 
Revision 46.5
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.

79 posted on 06/13/2012 10:43:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: James C. Bennett
That Jesus is one in the Trinity with God and the Holy Spirit, a mystery beyond full comprehension of man but easily seen in its work. Jesus is as was said in the Bible, God, and Christianity is Monotheistic.

So back to you...

What would be your answer...

I asked first...

80 posted on 06/13/2012 10:44:27 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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