Posted on 06/14/2012 8:42:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
According to revelation, there seems to be both a falling away and a revival in the end.
I now live in “babdis” territory and even attend one regularly. However, nobody has even asked me to join. A friend pastored at one for a year or so and they kicked him out. He said that some members that had been going there for decades could not tell you the difference between the old and new testament. He was trying to rectify that and the “old families” would have no part of it.
Christianity is not about numbers. It is about a relationship with your creator, with your relationship with your fellow man coming in a distant second.
This is all the goal of the Progressives in power across the world. Remove the insistence upon salvation from God and attempt to improve the dependence on the government.
As socialism and communism march across most of the world, the people of the world become wards of their respective states and demand all of their fulfillment from the “mother teat.” When the mother teat attempts to pull away, they dig in their teeth and latch on.
We can’t pull off the leeches without drawing some blood, and when the people are forced back on the street with no hope for help from their precious government, then and ONLY then will the pews fill again.
Also, hasn't the SBC been largely successful in not following the PC trendy feel good crap (gay marriage, social justice, queering the clergy, etc.) which has decimated big mainline denominations like the Methodists, ELCA, etc.?
You may have just hit the nail on the head. Hopefully it’s just a purging.
Baptist ping
Could it be that many of those former Baptists decided to “swim the Tiber” to join the ORIGINAL mega church, the RC Church?
Clearly they have not adopted the Democrat platform fast enough. /s
Pulling back has begun, starting last week in WI.
A lot of Baptists have joined mega-churches. That’s not for me, too much socializing and too little gospel preaching in my experience.
However, the SBC is and organization that can grorw or shrink.
Best shrinkage it ever did was when Jimmy left it.
Some church planting is going on, but it seems the real growth from these planted churches is to "satelite" churches of the megachurches.
Now where I think REAL growth is happening, but is undocumented, and more just my opinion, but is in home churches. I know some people are really getting tired of the megachurch scene, and want family like fellowship. Families, similar to the Duggars, that home school and want to control the environment that their family is raised in, are growing.
There are sevreal problems in the church.
There are those “troublemakers” who have purchased influence from their money and many years of service to the church.
There is also the issue of pastors are not talking about the issues of today. About gender selection abortions, the lack of morals in Government leadership, spending this country into oblivion, etc.
Our church has been without a head pastor for a year because the search is bogged down by committees for this and that, etc.
Our weekly attendance is about half of what it was a year ago.
Only 63 families tithe regularly ... out of a congregation of 700.
I could go on, but am getting depressed.
I'll go for the pageantry just for a change of scenery. But my ideal church would be 8 or 10 people gathering in a living room or, better yet, around a campfire up in the mountains.
No knock on megachurches. They are a far better alternative than these hollowed out mainline sects who preach a PC social justice gospel. They just don't happen to be my cup of tea.
Interesting.
My wife and I were “members” of a different baptist denomination for 20 years then we moved and started attending a baptist church closer to our new home. We have been there 5 years and attend faithfully and volunteer in many different areas but have not yet “joined” in an official “membership” capacity.
This is interesting as our former church often talked about “membership” and how the younger generation wasn’t really into “membership” but for the most part attend regularly and participated in all the volunteer opportunities that “non-members” could and many wished they could also participate in “members only” opportunities.
I understand the “church discipline” aspect in relation to members/non-members so it is a fine line that churches are walking in order to engage younger “non-member” minded folks.
I agree that a lot of these non-members are very faithful God-fearing people with a deep knowledge of scripture. On the other hand there are “members” that view their church membership as another club like the Elks or other community organization.
AMEN to that. It is not about numbers.
Membership in the Southern Baptist Convention dropped again over the last year, according to a new report. The largest Protestant denomination in the country now counts less than 16 million members.This marks the fifth straight year the SBC has lost members. Primary worship attendance has also dropped by 0.65 percent to around 6.16 million.
My question is, is this a genuine loss, or are some SBC congregations cleaning the "never shows" out of the rolls?
I know some in the SBC have expressed concern about over inflated membership numbers -- folks are counted as members who walked the aisle, got dunked in the name of the triune God, and (heedless of the dire imagery of baptism) never darken the door of the local church again. The "shallow soil" folks.
I’ll bet it’s the relatively liberal congregations that are declining. That would be in concert with the rest of American Protestantism. In 20 years there will be two kinds of Protestants remaining: Evangelical Protestants and Dead And Gone Protestants.
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