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Ouija Board Helps Psychologists Probe the Subconscious
New Scientist ^ | 7/5/12 | Clare Wilson

Posted on 07/09/2012 7:05:14 AM PDT by marshmallow

Beloved of spiritualists and bored teenagers on a dare, the Ouija board has long been a source of entertainment, mystery and sometimes downright spookiness. Now it could shine a light on the secrets of the unconscious mind.

The Ouija, also known as a talking board, is a wooden plaque marked with the words, "yes", "no" and the letters of the alphabet. Typically a group of users place their hands on a movable pointer , or "planchette", and ask questions out loud. Sometimes the planchette signals an answer, even when no one admits to moving it deliberately.

Believers think the answer comes through from the spirit world. In fact, all the evidence points to the real cause being the ideomotor effect, small muscle movements we generate unconsciously.

That's why the Ouija board has attracted the attention of psychologists at the University of British Columbia in Canada. Growing evidence suggests the unconscious plays a role in cognitive functions we usually consider the preserve of the conscious mind,.

Take driving your car along a familiar route while planning your day. On arrival, you realise you were not in conscious control of the car, it was your "inner zombie", said Hélène Gauchou at the Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness conference in Brighton, UK, this week. "How can we communicate with that unconscious intelligence?"

Gauchou's approach is to turn to the Ouija board. To keep things simple her team has just one person with their finger on the planchette at a time. But the ideomotor effect is maximised if you believe you are not responsible for any movements - that's why Ouija board sessions are most successful when used by a group. So the subject is told they will be using the board with a partner. The subject is blindfolded......

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TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christian; christianity; darkside; demons; ouija; ouijaboard; psychologists; religion; spiritual; supernatural; worldisgoingbonkers
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1 posted on 07/09/2012 7:05:18 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
More likely demonic spirits lie to gullible doctors though Ouiji boards.
2 posted on 07/09/2012 7:11:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: marshmallow

Yup. A WIDE open door to the demonic realm......


3 posted on 07/09/2012 7:14:04 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: marshmallow
The only thing the Ouija board helps with is the separation between man and God.
4 posted on 07/09/2012 7:20:11 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: marshmallow

The very practice seeking Godless solutions to spiritual problems, is now enlisting the support of Satan.

Whatta surprise......


5 posted on 07/09/2012 7:21:36 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: marshmallow

Hey, it predicts the future, too!


6 posted on 07/09/2012 7:22:45 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: marshmallow

“That’s why the Ouija board has attracted the attention of psychologists at the University of British Columbia in Canada.”

My half alma mater before I transferred to a real university in America. The profs there are crazier than your typical liberal and prime candidates for free lobotomies.


7 posted on 07/09/2012 7:23:15 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: mountainlion

I know for a fact that the Ouija board IS demonic.


8 posted on 07/09/2012 7:25:53 AM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: marshmallow

Do not mess with these boards..Sounds to me like some demon is trying to get more of the evil things loose on the earth..I am serious keep away from these and by all means do not let your children go near one..

http://www.squidoo.com/freakiest-ouijastories-ever


9 posted on 07/09/2012 7:26:52 AM PDT by PLD
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To: marshmallow

Perfect association, psychologists and a Ouija board. Both frauds one hiding behind fake unprovable science and the other hiding behind mysticism and stupidity.

In fact, the government should issue Ouija boards to be hung on the walls in psychologists offices for licensing purposes.


10 posted on 07/09/2012 7:31:52 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
What next?

Magic 8 Ball Helps Psychologists Probe the Subconscious

11 posted on 07/09/2012 7:34:32 AM PDT by catman67
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To: marshmallow
Take driving your car along a familiar route while planning your day. On arrival, you realise you were not in conscious control of the car, it was your "inner zombie", said Hélène Gauchou at the Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness conference in Brighton, UK, this week. "How can we communicate with that unconscious intelligence?"

You know, it's not only the (at best) dodgy recommendation of the Ouija board as a means for "exploring the unconscious," but psychologists' insistence in using language like the above to describe mentative processes that send me running for the Crucifix and the holy water. Psychology has always seemed to me like (sincere apologies to any actual psychologists here) the unknowable researching the unknowable--or, in the words of a psychologist in Shafer's Equus, like performing brain surgery using an ice pick in total darkness: what seems to me (not, after all, a trained psychologist) as a distinct scarcity of verifiable objective truth in the field must lead some of the wackier practitioners to think, "Hey, it's all a crap shoot anyway--let's just make [stuff] up!"

12 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:47 AM PDT by Dunstan McShane
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To: tractorman
I know for a fact that the Ouija board IS demonic.

Uh huh. Ouija boards can conjure up demons, just as well as psychics can conjure up tomorrow's lottery number.
13 posted on 07/09/2012 7:36:34 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: mountainlion

95% of “psychologists” I have met are themselves troubled or just not right in the head.


14 posted on 07/09/2012 7:37:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: marshmallow

Late of the Biblical Urim and Thummim, and still idolotry.


15 posted on 07/09/2012 7:45:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: marshmallow

Not believing in something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Seems like some psychologists might be learning that lesson, dragging their victims along with them.


16 posted on 07/09/2012 7:50:13 AM PDT by pallis
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To: NoGrayZone

How would that actually happen?


17 posted on 07/09/2012 7:50:54 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: mountainlion

You really believe in ouiji boards?


18 posted on 07/09/2012 7:51:56 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: tractorman

Seriously? How?


19 posted on 07/09/2012 7:53:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: pallis

Does believing in something mean it does exist?


20 posted on 07/09/2012 7:54:53 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: marshmallow
"How can we communicate with that unconscious intelligence?"

I do communicate with mine, and its language skills really stink. I'd rate its IQ about 60 or so. It's good at finding stuff, but terrible about telling me WHERE to look. It mixes up words, has an accurate vocabulary of fewer than twenty words. It can drive the car but not read the signs. It loves to draw and paint when permitted. It's partial to domestic animals. Not much personality though, overall; and that's fine with me.

Neither of us cares for ouija boarding.

21 posted on 07/09/2012 7:55:35 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: marshmallow

Ouija boards are made by Parker Brothers, like Monopoly - which is a direct hotline into the dark heart of capitalism.


22 posted on 07/09/2012 7:57:24 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: tractorman

Many, many years ago when I was a young teen a group of us decided to try out the Ouija board one night, probably because our parents told us not to do it under any circumstances. It only took one question and one movement and we threw the board in the fireplace. Made believers out of all of us.

Over the years I have had the same discussion with my children and grandchildren but did expand the reasons for my stern warning beyond what I was told which was simply “don’t do it”. Thankfully, neither generation has even been tempted to test it out.


23 posted on 07/09/2012 7:59:07 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: stuartcr

Because He has instructed us to stay away from such evil things.


24 posted on 07/09/2012 7:59:21 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: marshmallow

People who study the occult for various reasons generally are not fond of the talking boards. I have have had acquaintances who while they have no healthy fear of God, fear the energies the boards can open a person up to. There are those who do not believe in the Devil of the Bible but will tell you that there are what can be called demons. From a Christian perspective they are wrong on many levels beyond the danger of demonic possession for they go against the will of God. I have rationalist friends on the other hand who will tell you that it all is nonsense, but even given that, it sounds like a risky therapy if the patient has any spiritual beliefs.


25 posted on 07/09/2012 8:00:11 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: Wurlitzer
They're not even pretending anymore.

Psychologists = witch doctors


26 posted on 07/09/2012 8:04:04 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: PGR88

We were just discussing that Friday @ work. We had 2 of them that day and they are kooky, most of them anyway.


27 posted on 07/09/2012 8:04:28 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: marshmallow

I know an older, new agey woman who explores a lot of these things in her retirement.

Once she proudly announced that the universe is filled with warmth and live, and nothing can hurt you.

I laughed and reminded her that what she said doesn’t even describe a five block radius around her house, let alone the universe.

She had to agree.


28 posted on 07/09/2012 8:05:52 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: dog breath

OUija boards open doors. Sure, you may get Grandma, but everything thing else comes barging through the door with her. I started sleeping easier at my parent’s house back in the 1980’s. There was a stretch in the late 70’s where I could feel something wrong. My mother said, “we got rid of the Ouija board”.


29 posted on 07/09/2012 8:08:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: dog breath

OUija boards open doors. Sure, you may get Grandma, but everything thing else comes barging through the door with her. I started sleeping easier at my parent’s house back in the 1980’s. There was a stretch in the late 70’s where I could feel something wrong. My mother said, “we got rid of the Ouija board”.


30 posted on 07/09/2012 8:08:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Grams A

What did it make all of you actually believe?


31 posted on 07/09/2012 8:09:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Does He say why they are evil?


32 posted on 07/09/2012 8:10:13 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Ted Grant
Once she proudly announced that the universe is filled with warmth and live, and nothing can hurt you.

She was actually right, but you need to be somewhat spiritually enlightened to truly grasp what that really means.

33 posted on 07/09/2012 8:13:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Arlis

Amen to that. Those boards are the quickest and easiest way for demons to get hold of a person’s inner spirit and take over. I know what I’m talking about. I saw my mother destroyed when she invited the “spirits” to “come in” via the Quija Board. This crazy woman does not know what she is dealing with. So sad.


34 posted on 07/09/2012 8:15:41 AM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: WVNan

How do you know the board destroyed your mother?


35 posted on 07/09/2012 8:20:49 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Sometimes, when it does.


36 posted on 07/09/2012 8:23:32 AM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis

I guess it doesn’t when it doesn’t. thanx


37 posted on 07/09/2012 8:25:12 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Deuteronomy 18: 9-12.


38 posted on 07/09/2012 8:29:54 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Thanks. Do you really believe that stuff exists?


39 posted on 07/09/2012 8:33:01 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: marshmallow

Ouija Board?....no thanks.....I’d rather bet on Nancy Pelosi’s magic shoes......


40 posted on 07/09/2012 8:34:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: stuartcr

Revelation 21:8, Acts 16:16-18, Galatians 5:19-21.


41 posted on 07/09/2012 8:38:08 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: stuartcr

With my whole heart and soul.


42 posted on 07/09/2012 8:39:07 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: stuartcr

I don’t know what it is, probably unconsious, but it definitely taps into something. Me and another guy asked it to tell us a story and it started zinging around spelling out a story and we couldn’t keep up and just quit. I can’t remember the story. I know the other guy wasn’t doing it, you’d have to have known him to know why. And I know I wasn’t doing it. My guess is it was from one of out unconcious minds or from both.


43 posted on 07/09/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: NoGrayZone

Thanx.That must have taken a great leap of faith.


44 posted on 07/09/2012 9:02:24 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

It always does. From your responses, it seems you don’t believe in it.

Or maybe you are trying to learn. Anywho, if you don’t have the faith, I pray you take the “leap”.

God Bless!


45 posted on 07/09/2012 9:05:44 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: stuartcr

You’re welcome!


46 posted on 07/09/2012 9:07:19 AM PDT by pallis
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To: bkepley

So you don’t believe you were conversing with the spirit plane?


47 posted on 07/09/2012 9:07:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: NoGrayZone

I have no desire to a leap of faith that would have me believing in being able to converse with spirits. Do you believe in vampires and fairies and magic also?


48 posted on 07/09/2012 9:10:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
So you don’t believe you were conversing with the spirit plane?

Is that a joke? I don't even know what the "sprit plane" means. My best guess is that when two conscious wills are focused on the device with their fingertips on it, elbows off the table, very smooth surface, the unconcious is in the drivers seat. Just a guess though. There's plenty we don't understand about consciousness.

49 posted on 07/09/2012 9:16:48 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: stuartcr

Vampires and fairies aren’t mentioned in the Bible verse’s I gave you. However, conversing with spirits are.

When people go to a “physic” and think they are speaking w/ dead granny, they aren’t.

They are speaking w/ a demon, pretending to be dead granny. They know us as much as He does.....only, they use this information AGAINST us.


50 posted on 07/09/2012 9:17:22 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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