The Elephant in the Room: Mitt’s Mormon Faith [Which is why one-third still don't know he's Lds]

ThyBlackMan.com ^ | July 10, 2012 | Kevin M. Jackson

[Colofornian]

(ThyBlackMan.com) If you remember during the 2008 Presidential election, there was a strong effort to try to expose the faith of then Senator Obama. Many tried to label him an extremist because of his connection with the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright.

I am curious to know if Mitt Romney will receive the same type of treatment given the lack of knowledge that most Americans have about the Mormon faith. I think that faith must be on the table since it was a factor in the previous election. Perhaps the reason it has not be raised is because the GOP leaders know that up to 25% of their base absolutely will not vote for a Mormon regardless of his credentials.

Let’s take a look at some of the beliefs of GOP Presidential Candidate, Mitt Romney Mormon’s faith. All of the information provided was taken from the Mormon Faith Tenets.

• The Mormon faith teaches that God the Father was initially a regular man who had a wife and they both lived on a celestial planet. They conceived and produced celestial offspring which gave birth to spirits that created Jesus, the devil and mankind. Once babies are born, they receive one of these spirits. (Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 page 265)
• Mormon’s believe that members who tithe 10% of their income will become gods of their own celestial planet.
• Mormons believe that the Book of Mormon is more accurate that the Christian Bible. (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461)
• Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are spirit brothers. (Mormon doctrine page 163)
• Mormons believe that Jesus return to New Jerusalem will be on the American Continent. (Mormon Article of Faith #10)
• Mormons believe that the gospel will be propagated through the Book of Mormon, not the bible. (Doctrines and Covenants section 10)
• Mormons believe in baptizing the dead by proxy.
• The Mormon church has a very disappointing past of allowing blacks to become clergy men.

According a Christian Post article,” What do Mormons Believe? Ex-Mormon speaks out, October 18, 2011 by reporter Devenish the following items were cited about Mormon beliefs:

• Mormons do not believe in the trinity.
• Mormons do not believe in grace.
• Mormons do not believe in the original sin of man. According to the article, you cannot sin until the age of eight.
• Mormons do not believe in hell.
• Mormons believe that you can own your own planet if you are a good Mormon, married in the temple and tithe.
• The ten tribes of Israel will return back to Missouri.

I took the time to itemize some of the different beliefs that Mitt Romney believes in to show that he is not a perfect candidate just because he seemingly names the name of Christ. We have to be careful with the Trojan Horses the GOP sends our way in the name of religion.

I challenge all of the African American pastors to consider if they want to vote for someone who believes totally different from what they preach every Sunday. If you can vote for Mitt Romney with a clear conscience knowing his religious beliefs, his insensitive policies that do not benefit the African American community then go for it. If you have reservations, then you must consider our current commander and chief.

Staff Writer; Kevin M. Jackson

[Elsie]

...instead choose to ordain Romney to be the standard bearer.

WHAT!!??

The RNC had their convention and I MISSED it?

[sport]

I would say that you did.

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[Gaffer]

Yes, I know it ultimately is the voters’ responsibility. However, when such a vast array of MSM (TV, Radio, and Newspapers) are aligned to spread disinformation and lies to the unknowledgeable public, it’s not quire a level playing field, is it. You and I and the rest here are what I’d call “expert data miners,” regardless of our own individual biases. You must remember that a vast, vast number of people are out there that aren’t.

[BlueMoose]

WOW

[reaganaut]

Then you may want to re-evaluate your ‘relationship’ with Jesus. One of the hallmarks of a saving faith is concern with the souls of others and a desire to share the Good News of Christ with the lost.

[scram2]

I was not aware there were different rules for different parts of the FR.

Sorry

[chris37]

No thank you.

The beauty of my relationship with Jesus is that it’s private between me and Him.

There’s nothing you or anyone else can do to change it, control it, or otherwise manipulate it in any way, shape or form.

It doesn’t involve other people at all.

I’m a lone wolf, always have been, always will be, and even if I was the last man on earth, I wouldn’t be lonely, because Jesus is in here. *points*

What happens ot the rest of the world is not a concern of mine. I can’t save it, and neither can you.

[CommerceComet]

You are so boring that you make this webiste boring.

There are 300+ responses. For those of us keeping score at home, how many responses are needed before we can deem this topic not boring?

[Colofornian]

Lol...he's better than obama shows what a loser the rinos picked....

[Religion Moderator]

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[Colofornian]

"judging" is simply a negative spin for exercising discernment ... or have you opted out of practicing discernment the rest of your life?

[CommerceComet]

It doesn’t involve other people at all.

I think that Reaganaut has a valid point.

When I became a Christian about 30 years ago, one of the big changes I noted in my life was this unquenchable desire to spend time with other Christians. It has never abated. I have found that I love to be around God's people - the ones that feel the same joy that I do. Not out of a sense of duty but out of a sense of desire. I have since found this to be true of other new converts as well. In my personal experience, Lone Wolf Christians always backslide over time.

[chris37]

It doesn’t matter to me at all what you think, and I do not have the same desire.

In fact, I have the exact opposite desire.

You will have to be content to keep your religion to yourself, I don’t want it, and I don’t need it.

If it works for you in your life, great! Mine works for me in my life, so I trust you will be happy for me and not try to mind control me right?

Right.

[CommerceComet]

so I trust you will be happy for me and not try to mind control me right? Right.

Mind control? Call it whatever you want but in all likelihood, you are deceiving yourself. If you are not interested in discussing religious ideas, why exactly are you on a religion forum?

[chris37]

Because the default setting of this website made this forum sadly visible.

And it is mind control.

Religion must spread, must it not? Can’t have people thinking whatever they want, that’s an offense...

[Elsie]

WOW! indeed!!

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Elsie]

I was not aware there were different rules for different parts of the FR.

Yup; there are: Just like life...

[Elsie]

What happens ot the rest of the world is not a concern of mine.

"Go ye into all the world...

[Elsie]

... or have you opted out of practicing discernment the rest of your life?

Probably not.

He's 'discerned' that MORMONism cannot defend itself; so he apparently wants the 'attackers' to leave it alone to entrap more souls.