Posted on 08/10/2012 5:28:42 PM PDT by stfassisi
FWIW,
You decided to make this thread about defending GW as if he is a Saint which dishonor Church approved apperation in favor of a Free-masonic GW as if he did nothing wrong in being a free mason to which you are aware the Catholic Church Condemns
Answer: This is not a new apparition. It took place in the early 17th century. The revelations of Our Lady of Good Success and devotion to Her miraculous Statue have been approved by the Catholic Church since the beginning. It was the 9th Bishop of Quito, Salvador de Ribera, who attested in official documents to the miraculous completion of the Statue by St. Francis of Assisi and the three Archangels – St. Michael, St. Gabriel and St. Raphael – and presided over the anointing of the solemn consecration of the Statue in the Church of the Royal Convent of the Immaculate Conception on February 2, 1611. The devotion and apparitions were also authorized and promoted by the next Bishop of Quito, Pedro de Oviedo, who governed the Diocese from 1630 to 1646. Thus this devotion has enjoyed the support and approval of the Church since its very beginning.
There are approved prophecies by the Church and there are the either mistaken or deliberate servants of the unholy one who promote false prophecies.
No false prophets are permitted within the beliefs of the Church; and further, no private revelation is required belief within the Church's doctrine.
http://romereturn.blogspot.com/2009/09/why-catholics-cant-be-masons.html is a small essay on the subject.
http://romereturn.blogspot.com/2009/09/why-catholics-cant-be-masons.html is a small essay on the subject.
But you dumped it now, correct, if I remember from another thread?
That is correct.
I began to realize that the beliefs were incompatible with Christianity over time; and it was when I went looking for confirmation that I happened upon the Papal bull on the subject.
I was very fortunate in that I moved to a parish in Indiana run by the Franciscans where the parish priest (a perfect parish priest if there ever was one) counseled me. I have tremendous respect and thanks for Fr. Fred who not only served as my confessor, but as the chaplain to our KofC council which I eventually became the Grand Knight to. A great and humble man; I was blessed by his counsel.
And I am thankful for the Catholics and non Catholics on FR who have helped strengthen my own faith.
Thanks for your testimony tonight. I daresay it will help someone in the same way. Hope they private message you.
The prophecies of Our Lady of Good Success were mentioned in an article at http://www.spiritdaily/ a few days ago.
These predictions happened and some are happening right now, were prophesied by the Blessed Mother in the first part of the 17th century~!!
I put in CAPS at the end of the excerpt the word “ALL.”
Our Lord’s consecrated ones, His priests are ALL vilified
by those who hate the Church when the number is one and 1/2 percent of priests who have been accused not convicted in the homosexual scandal.
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Our Lady of Quito prophesied that in the 60s there would be spiritual catastrophe in the Church; then, through the faith of the just, a ‘complete restoration’
But first, there would be a total corruption of morals in society; this would affect the Church, too
By William Oddie on Thursday, 26 July 2012
Our Lady of Quito
I was leafing through the current issue of The Flock, the newsletter of Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, when I came across an article by the redoubtable Mrs Daphne McLeod about Our Lady of Quito — otherwise known as Our Lady of Good Success—who appeared several times to Mother Mariana, Abbess of the convent of the Immaculate Conception in Quito, Ecuador, at the end of the sixteenth and the beginning of the seventeenth centuries.
On one of these occasions, she made a particularly remarkable prophecy. You will see why—knowing Mrs McLeod’s passionate concern for the religious education of our children, and her repeated warnings over the years about the consequences of the denatured and insubstantial superficiality of what they are now fed as she draws our attention in The Flock to this particular apparition of Our Lady.
My source for what follows is an admirable and extremely useful site, snappily entitled “Apparitions and Shrines of the Blessed Virgin Mary which have been approved by legitimate Church Authority”.
Early in the morning of January 21, 1610, the Archangels St. Michael, St. Gabriel and St. Raphael appeared to Mother Mariana. Then Our Lady appeared to her and predicted many things about our own times: this is part of what Mother Mariana afterwards related that she told her:
“…. I make it known to you that from the end of the 19th century and shortly after the middle of the 20th century…. the passions will erupt and there will be a total corruption of customs (morals)….
They will focus principally on the children in order to sustain this general corruption. Woe to the children of these times! It will be difficult to receive the Sacrament of Baptism, and also that of Confirmation…
As for the Sacrament of Matrimony… it will be attacked and deeply profaned… The Catholic spirit will rapidly decay; the precious light of the Faith will gradually be extinguished… Added to this will be the effects of secular education, which will be one reason for the dearth of priestly and religious vocations.
The Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed, and despised… The Devil will try to persecute the ministers of the Lord in every possible way; he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to deviate them from the spirit of their vocation and will corrupt many of them. These depraved priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will make the hatred of bad Catholics and the enemies of the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church fall upon ALL priests…
“Further, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury, which will ensnare the rest into sin and conquer innumerable frivolous souls, who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be found in children, nor modesty in women. In this supreme moment of need of the Church, the one who should speak will fall silent.” In a subsequent apparition, Our Lady told Mother Mariana that these apparitions were not to become generally known until the twentieth century....
Hopefully it will. Perhaps people will overcome their fears and tremidations. Perhaps not. However, I will answer their questions to the best of my abilities. Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity.
The caucus designation will be removed since you have brought non-Catholic beliefs into the discussion. The thread is now “open”.
>>Is MTV , abortion,legal porn, which makes the US an Independent nation the work of satan?I say yes!<<
LOLOLOLOL!!!!
So England is filled with walking living saints?
>>There never should have been a war in the first place and America should have been a catholic country if people followed the will of God, Thus,there would be NO protestant influence at all -if you’re a faithful Catholic...<<
Here is a history lesson for you stfassisi, the United States was founded by Christians, lots of flavors. Catholics founded the colony of Maryland and couldn’t even fill it. Had it not been for Protestants, this country would be Native heathens. Or we would be speaking Spanish and look how wonderful the Spanish are doing in their spirituality.
Perhaps some of us need to listen to the Vatican a bit more....
Defective churches
In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church
Poland is a Catholic Country, yet it couldn’t overcome Communism without the “evil” United States.
Masons may not be compatible with Catholic teachings but it doesn’t make them Non-Christian as the first post states, just non-Catholic.
US Pluralism is its failure because there is no DEFINED dogmas that outlines Christianity. The lukewarm approach not defining Christ as God in the constitiution is a US failure....And I don't care if you bring up Catholic's who condoned not defining Christ as God in the founding of america because plenty of Martyrs through the ages were stronger in defending the Faith
If the US was founded in Catholicism ,it would define Christ as God in its constitution
Masons may not be compatible with Catholic teachings but it doesn’t make them Non-Christian
Pluralism seems to have invaded your beliefs as well.It should be your Catholic duty here on FR to show how freemasonry is NOT Christian rather than sugar coat this evil craft. Mark Bsnr's testimony should help you understand this along with Church dogma that calls freemasonry evil.
I will pray for you at Adoration this week
Don’t be more Catholic than the Pope. The Vatican told you how you should be thinking of Non-Catholics.
Many people around the world do not think of the US as evil. Pity you do. Don’t let the owner of this site get wind of your Anti-American beliefs. Some have been zotted and it’s at the owner’s discretion.
My “Catholic duty” is between me and My Lord. However, some who swing their dogma above their heads in a triumphant happy dance would do well to remember the seven deadly sins. Focusing on “Pride”.
Cover yourself at Adoration. You need it.
Dear Lord ,
Please have mercy on our liberal Catholic sister who has no idea of Church teaching and accuses others of hatred which is unfounded in ignorance.
If you want to play the game on authentic Church teachings we can do this via private mail because I seek to remain humble in helping your error
“”Cover yourself at Adoration. You need it.””
Your words convict you
“””Don’t let the owner of this site get wind of your Anti-American beliefs. Some have been zotted and it’s at the owner’s discretion.””
I love all people ,like the Church teaches. Perhaps it is you that has no idea of the depth of love and the foundation of His Church that is able to not be afraid of being labeled like Our Blessed Lord was and persecuted for holding to the truth that might cause others to object to the Catholic Faith,
Pluralism is sinful if you know the truth!
“”Cover yourself at Adoration. You need it””
I don’t believe you’re a Catholic in good standing with the church
Good luck with that "Great Catholic Monarch" thing.
To be correct, the Church teaches that Freemasonry is not compatible with Christianity. Freemasonry teaches Deism, not Christianity. The differences are both subtle and overt.
The most overt is the Deist belief that no supernatural events (such as the Incarnation of Christ) exist. The most subtle is that terminology (God, Creator) is the same.
The lukewarm approach not defining Christ as God in the constitiution is a US failure
That's because so many of the founding Fathers were Deists or only lukewarm Christians.
Unfortunately, many of the Catholic nations founded are going down in flames simply because they abandoned the entirety of the Faith. A number of South American nations come to mind. Mexico comes to mind. You are either Catholic or else you are not. You either believe in the Faith or else you do not.
The largest objection that some of us have to the current role of POTUS is the residence in a substitute palace and the ability to hand down laws (executive orders) without passing through the Legislature. We already have a sort-of King. We should be working to reduce the role of the king, rather than celebrating or championing either the current possessor of the title or the putative successor.
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