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Look at New England. I live in Massachusetts. It’s practically a wasteland. I had to change churches a few years ago — an elderly, and very Christian pastor retired and was replaced by a left-wing, green, lesbian who clearly did not see Christ as a Savior. Took us months to find a new church with a Bible-centered mission.

Look at the names in the legend to the map. Take out the Baptists and the LCMS, and the rest are apostate IMO:

American Baptist Churches in the USA
Assemblies of God
Christian Churches and Churches of Christ
Episcopal Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Southern Baptist Convention
United Church of Christ
United Methodist Church
Other

I think the pollsters have overestimated the Protestant population, myself.

Well, looking at polling data and voting patterns, better than half of the Catholic population is apostate as well. We can’t expect non-Christians to be able to make a distinction between the two if we don’t ourselves.

I look at that sea of red in Missouri and have hope that McCaskill will be ousted, despite the efforts of certain Republicans to undermine or even destroy her opponent.

I look at that sea of red and know where the startling numbers turning out for CFA day can be primarily attributed, even in largely liberal states. Look at California. There’s a large red coastal county right by the Bay Area.

Heck, look at Utah.

I look at that map and know why Sarah Palin had such an upwelling of support in 2008, too. All other criticisms aside, she spoke their language and walked the walk.

>> Look at the names in the legend to the map. Take out the Baptists and the LCMS, and the rest are apostate IMO: I think the pollsters have overestimated the Protestant population, myself. <<

Who declares which protestant denominations are "apostate"? You?

And odd you should lump all the "Baptists" in together as "non-apostate", there are many different Baptist denominations in America and they run the spectrum from very conservative to very liberal Christian theology. Not all are SBC. You even have nutty groups out there that are Baptist in name only, like Westboro Baptist Church. I'm pretty sure every Christian would consider Fred Phelps to be "apostate"

The UMC are not apostate. Xzins has corrected me in the past for that wrong perception. From what I understand, they are still fighting with the liberals in their church. As conservatives — whether Catholic or Methodist or Baptist — we need to support the fellow conservatives in the UMC and not dump them in the same group as the liberals in their denomination

As Cronos has pointed out, there is a lot in the United Methodist Church to be hopeful about. Most telling for those who follow these things is that a coalition of American and African conservatives are setting the direction for the UMC.

One must understand that our articles of religion are the same unchanged, that our principles on homosexuality have not changed, they still say that it is incompatible with Christian teaching, and that our focus is to take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world for TRANSFORMING lives.

Are there liberals (and lots of them) in our hierarchy and our body of elders. Yes. That’s undeniable.

But, after THEIR LOSING in each 4 year denominational meeting for 24 years in a row, one would think that the conservatives would start getting support for their efforts in the way of simple recognition that they exist and that they’ve been effective.

The danger as I see it is that America is raising a new generation of young who accept homosexualism, license, and amorality.

They will be the ones replacing church leadership in all the churches mentioned and in ours.