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Tea With Honey But Not in Jerusalem: Abp of Canterbury Makes His Peace With Post-Christian England
Crisis Magazine ^ | Tracey Rowland

Posted on 10/02/2012 8:48:39 PM PDT by marshmallow

Dr Rowan Williams is retiring as the Archbishop of Canterbury to take up the post of Master of Magdalene College, Cambridge. His “valedictory” book, Faith in the Public Square, is attracting considerable media interest. I was prompted to buy it after reading Dr William Oddie’s particularly colorful review in the London Catholic Herald. Oddie concluded that the ideas promoted in the book are the sort of impractical nonsense one only hears on Oxbridge high tables and in senior common rooms.

I have never met Dr Williams but I once quoted him in a paper I delivered in Italy, a short time after he was inducted into a society for the promotion of all things Welsh and made an honorary “Druid” within the society. I was quoting from an article he had written on St. Augustine which had absolutely nothing to do with Welsh Druids, their drinking clubs or literary societies, but after the lecture a Spanish academic complained to my boss (who is both an Oxford graduate and an Anglican convert and thus understands the British sense of humor) that I was being influenced by Druids!

Having once been tarred with the Druid brush I thought I would see what the most prominent Welshman since Tom Jones and Bryn Terfel had to say about Faith in the Public Square.

The macro-level point of the book was that it is possible to distinguish between what Dr Williams calls “procedural secularism” and “programmatic secularism.” He offers the practices of the Indian government as an example of “procedural secularism,” and of the French as an example of “programmatic secularism.” He could equally have placed Australia in the “procedural secularism” category.

The hallmark of “procedural secularism” is that governments do not privilege any one faith. For example, in Australia all religious schools....

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TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anglican; canterbury; christianity; christophobia; coe; misotheism; persecution; rowanwilliams; secularism

1 posted on 10/02/2012 8:48:41 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
I have never met Dr Williams but I once quoted him in a paper I delivered in Italy, a short time after he was inducted into a society for the promotion of all things Welsh and made an honorary “Druid” within the society
I suspect that nobody at this point wonders about the Traditional Anglican Communion seeking communion with Rome? This event is of course where the pejorative “Archdruid” came from; talk about sleeping with the enemy.
2 posted on 10/02/2012 8:55:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: marshmallow

Bump for later . Rowan actually says some surprising stuff here.


3 posted on 10/02/2012 9:30:11 PM PDT by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: marshmallow

The little bearded Druid is now free to tripse & traipse with his truest & intimate favorites, the lovely beloved Muslims.

Let he & they go tripping hand in hand through the springtime meadows, all coexisting together in a multicultural hookah induced stupor.

(Geez, what a dope!)


4 posted on 10/02/2012 9:33:06 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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To: marshmallow

Williams is responsible for the end of Anglicanism, and severe damage to Christianity. He never had his eye on God, the Holy Spirit, and Christ Jesus, the Holy Trinity, as the most important gift of faith, with scripture and tradition to be upheld as worthy. He instead has been focused on cultural relativism, and in the process, destroyed everything in a global institution of faith. All that is left is janitorial work to clean up the mess.

Certainly the American branch, the Episcopal Church, is no longer functioning as a Christian institution at all, it is some kind of sex crazed cult adhering to every kind of old and new heresies, with lesbians and trangendereds and gay men parading around claiming to be priests, leading people astray from the word of God. And of course the treasury has been completely looted, the once wealth episcopalians are broke.


5 posted on 10/02/2012 9:44:41 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

Right on, Sir - except for:

>> And of course the treasury has been completely looted, the once [wealthy] Episcopalians are broke.

No, the fools in New York City (the head office) have plenty of land holdings to keep them enriched for some time to come. The only ones who got the shaft were the congregations - large and small - who attempted to remain true to biblical tradition.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 10:12:56 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

The HQ in NYC is for sale to pay lawyers suing for property of churches who want to leave.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 11:07:42 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: QBFimi

The HQ in NYC is for sale to pay lawyers suing for property of churches who want to leave.


8 posted on 10/02/2012 11:07:46 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: QBFimi

Have you not heard that during the most recent general convention of the EpiscoBAAL church (this past summer), the convention voted to sell the national headquarters on 2nd avenue in New York City because they could no longer make the mortgage payments? If I remember correctly, they owed approximately $8 million. Yet, they spent $16 million taking orthodox congregations who want to leave the apostate body to court. Really good stewardship of tithes and offerings, isn’t it.


9 posted on 10/02/2012 11:22:35 PM PDT by miele man
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To: FlyingEagle

And those faithful Anglicans who are still are around, best to take into consideration the offer Rome has made.


10 posted on 10/03/2012 2:14:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FlyingEagle

Anglicanism ended a long, long time ago. Williams presided over the period in which its death could no longer be covered up.

It was never anything other than Britishness in a cassock. Britishness died after World War II—somewhere along the line, exact time of death impossible to determine due to advanced state of decomposition, but fact of death incontrovertible.


11 posted on 10/03/2012 2:40:18 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Biggirl

Mrs FE and I start RCIA in 2 weeks.


12 posted on 10/03/2012 9:48:06 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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