Contraception is contrary to God's law: Why the Hahns became Roman Catholic

But when I used a condom in relations with my wife, I was acting just like a homosexual?

Have you read what the Bible says about homosexuality? I don’t think that applies to couples who for whatever reason don’t want a baby to be produced but who still want to show their love to each other.

Humans should make love, not breed. We are not dogs.

I don’t see how this is a response to my previous post saying that couple infertility is a whole different subject.

“Have you read what the Bible says.....?”

I have read—and read-—and read-—and prayed the Bible for many, many years.

That hardly makes me an expert in the Bible and I don’t profess to be one. I have more to learn about the Bible than I have a lifetime left to do it.

What I do know, however, is what I have read-—(and learned from two of the best teachers a person could wish for)-—and prayed and sought for in the Sacred Scriptures is the Truth; because it is Truth that sets us free.

So many times now you have said “we are not dogs”.

Does actually wanting children make us dogs?

Are people with more than one child to be compared to dogs?

Is love-making which becomes child-bearing something that should be compared to dog-breeding?

If a couple does not have the difficulty of infertility-— which is a separate problem-—are they breeding like dogs if they have a desire to have children?

“Dang! ...infertile couples ...bunch of homos!”

There is no comparison between an infertile couple (unless purposely sterilized) and the homosexual act because the infertile couple has the correct intentions and their infertility is not their choice. The homosexual act is a disordered choice.

Jesus never married and He Himself taught that there would be disciples who would remain unmarried for the kingdom of Heaven (cfr. Mt 19:12). God bless!

The Creator of the Universe married ???
Is that an example ???
Perhaps the priests of the Roman "church"
should have followed the example of Origen.
There would not have been so many sex scandals.
Yesterday was an important day: Simchat Torah
The Joy of the WORD - The Circumcision of Yah'shua.
He came to tabernacle with His people eight days before.
John 1:14
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and
dwelt (tabernacled) among us, and we saw His glory,
(Shekhinah glory)
glory as of the only begotten from the Father,
full of grace and truth.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

Yes, Jesus, the Creator of the universe incarnate is an example for His priests: "Come follow me" (Mt 4:19).

I suppose St. Paul being celibate and encouraging others not to marry has no weight? I Cor 7:8, 25-35

BTW celibacy does not produce sex scandals any more than marriage produces adultery. The problem, in both cases (and all other cases of sin), is a lack of correspondence to God's grace. Both the East (Orthodox) and West from apostolic times have always had celibate clergy and consecrated virgins. The Protestants rejected this apostolic tradition which was based on Scripture (see the link).

In talking about married clergy, most people overlook the fact that in the Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churches the constant tradition has been and remains that once ordained (deacon, priest or Bishop) they cannot marry. In both the Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches monks and Bishops are celibate. The big difference between the two is that the Orthodox allow a man to marry before his ordination to the deaconate, if he so chooses, but again once ordained a deacon he can never marry again even if his wife dies.

In a word, up to the 15th century the entire Christian tradition was united: after ordination, no marriage; monks and Bishops were always celibates. And the Orthodox and Roman Catholic Church have continued this practice. In contrast with the Orthodox, the Roman Catholic discipline admits only celibates to the priesthood. Any man who does not feel called to celibacy should not sign up.

Yes, Jesus, the Creator of the universe incarnate is an example for His priests: "Come follow me" (Mt 4:19).
I suppose St. Paul being celibate and encouraging others not to marry has no weight? I Cor 7:8, 25-35

Yah'shua is calling some to be followers in Matthew 4:19.
Sha'ul is discussing marriage in Chapter 7 of 1st Corinthians.
He is not performing a treatise on Temple Virgins.
YHvH ended the need for Priests in 70 CE.
Yah'shua is now our High Priest.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

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