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Pregnant and homeless on the doorsteps of a Christian megachurch
lsn ^ | 10/6/2012 | Abby Johnson

Posted on 10/06/2012 5:45:50 PM PDT by Morgana

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1 posted on 10/06/2012 5:45:55 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Faith with out works is dead! James.


2 posted on 10/06/2012 5:50:17 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Morgana

The gay activists and adult club owners occasionally protest my church.

Our pastor takes cold bottles of water out to them. They don’t come as much anymore.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 5:50:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Morgana

“Non-denominational”+Megachurch= watered down Christianity afraid to offend the Godless.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 5:51:37 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Yes.

The good news, without the inconvenient repentance part.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Morgana

My niece told me that the house next to the church the husband died and the pastor went over to express his condolences.
The widow said you never once came over when he was sick and in need, so get the hell out of my house.
She said it was the most moving sermon she had ever heard, the man was broken by his lack of “getting to know his neighbors”.
She said he decided that every house with in a square mile from the church would be visited personally by him, because that widow was right and he had failed her and her husband.
Anyway, I not sure it is the mega church is the problem but people can lose themselves in the crowd and they escape personal involvement. They can go to church, be a regular, give a dollar or two and think ‘that’s all they need to do’.
More is asked of us.


6 posted on 10/06/2012 6:02:14 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: GeronL
one person's possibly uninformed statement ~ and that triggers a rant.

Could be ~ maybe it isn't. There is insufficient evidence in this piece to condemn that particular megachurch, but let's say they believe in abortion in there ~ they'd not really be Christian in the first place, so the rant is wasted.

Anyone have any real information on this story or is it just something written according to a formula.

Not to be cynical, but we are asked to condemn these people on third or fourth-hand testimony.

7 posted on 10/06/2012 6:08:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GeronL

I can assure you that my “Non-denominational” + Megachurch is not watered down Christianity and we are not afraid to offend the Godless. Sounds like you are judging us all. Sad!


8 posted on 10/06/2012 6:09:50 PM PDT by NativeTxn
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With out say exactly who, (small town, one room baptist churches) have often told me they are upset with these mega churches because they, the mega churches are stealing all their members. Most of these small town churches are lucky to seat 50 people (mostly family or somehow related) on a good night, maybe 200 during a week long revival. I am not sure of the reason/s as to why the mega churches are attracting these people but to be honest I believe they just want a change from the small town inbreed incestuous church they left.


9 posted on 10/06/2012 6:34:32 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: muawiyah

I agree.


10 posted on 10/06/2012 6:43:23 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Morgana

I am not saying it applies here but...

There was a woman and she was living in a women’s shelter here in the states with her three young boys. She was from Africa and had been married to a fairly wealthy German, she was fleeing an abusive husband in Germany. That’s how she ended up in the USA. So the story goes...

While in the women’s shelter, she met another woman who was staying at the women’s shelter who was also from Africa but had become a nurse and a citizen of the USA. When the abusive boyfriend was cleared from the citizen woman’s home, she left the shelter and returned home, taking the other woman and her 3 kids with her.

This African/German woman and her three kids made the other lady happy, as she has no children and she thought they could all be like a little family. She could help them as the African/German lady went to school and the children could be in a good school and stable environment.

This that and the other happened and the African/German lady started complaining to a church she had started attending. She said the other lady was cruel, crazy...you name it (it was quite a story). Of course the church was worried for this woman, so they helped her move out of that house and found a church member who was able to house the lady and her children.

Once at the church members house, she didn’t want to care for her children, became demanding about being taken here there and yonder, wanted to drive the vehicles even though she had no license. Wanted internet hooked up to the garage apartment, instead of using the library computers. Had a strange man come to the house late at night. You get the picture.

Turns out the school overlooked needed paperwork for the children, to ensure they could be in school and because they wanted to help, just like the church. A US man had paid this woman’s way and shipped her stuff here to the USA. She had done this before— it was France that she had run off to before. The German father was looking for his children. She had kidnapped them (parent abduction).

She had other stuff going on with the courts here, too. She had somehow married the man who paid her way here but she had said he was abusive, too and she was trying to get that annulled or he was...it was all just crazy. Oh, and it turns out that the stuff the church helped the lady move out of the home of the other woman, well some of it belonged to the other woman. So the church helped this lady with theft.

Were the men abusive to her? I don’t know. I do know that this was abusive to others that she came into contact with, that were just trying to be Christian and helpful. She took advantage of everyone and wanted more. She was neglectful to her children. She was a scam artist.

They endangered a older, single woman church member in doing this. The church changed their policy on how they help. Churches do need to be careful as well as helpful.


11 posted on 10/06/2012 6:43:52 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Morgana

My experience has been this: a new church forms and the new pastor is young and the music is the entertainment and live band praise chorus style that the small town churches have yet to adopt. At first, a few young families leave to join the new church, then the trickle becomes a flood as the young people all follow their friends to the new church. The older church is left with the aging faithful, struggling to afford a full time pastor.
The new churches offer a gym and basketball and all sorts of programs for the kids because they have the numbers.


12 posted on 10/06/2012 6:49:12 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Morgana

Wow, small Christian churches are places of incest and inbreeding?


13 posted on 10/06/2012 6:54:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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honest I believe they just want a change from the small town inbreed incestuous church they left

and that doesn't sound stereotyped at all, lol

14 posted on 10/06/2012 6:54:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Wiser now

This is the problem with mega churches, they are entertaining their congregation rather than preaching the gospel/cross and saving the congregation.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 6:55:56 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: Irenic

bump


16 posted on 10/06/2012 6:58:15 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ansel12

What, you mean you’ve never been to the Tuesday Night Incest Services or Wednesday Night Orgies? The coleslaw is excellent, by the way.

//extreme sarcasm


17 posted on 10/06/2012 6:59:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

Christian maternity home and program founded by Christians in Ocean County, NJ to provide a place for women like this:

http://www.graceinitiatives.org


18 posted on 10/06/2012 7:08:57 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: Irenic

Yup, I’ve been in two churches now where similar things have happened. We have to be wise as a serpent, gentle as a dove. I used to run a Food Closet for our church for the neighborhood, and I got to know the clients. Some few would hang around church on Sundays looking for money/ handouts, telling ‘sad tales.’ People would ask me, ‘Should I help him?” And I’d say, “I can tell you, word for word, his story. I personally do not believe it.’

Sentimentality can get one in so much trouble.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 7:09:32 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Morgana
With out say exactly who, (small town, one room baptist churches) have often told me they are upset with these mega churches because they, the mega churches are stealing all their members. Most of these small town churches are lucky to seat 50 people (mostly family or somehow related) on a good night, maybe 200 during a week long revival. I am not sure of the reason/s as to why the mega churches are attracting these people but to be honest I believe they just want a change from the small town inbreed incestuous church they left.

Pro_8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

I'm sure you'll just read this and smirk at how "perfect" you are .
20 posted on 10/06/2012 7:18:19 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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