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Daughter of LDS Bishop Warns Against Mormonism and Romney Presidency ['Of two evils...neither']
Christian News Network ^ | Oct. 13, 2012 | Heather Clark

Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian

The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.

Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.

“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.

Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.

“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”

Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.

“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.

“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”

Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.

“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”

Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.

“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”

“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”

She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.

“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.

“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.

Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”

“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”

Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.

“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.

When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.

“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”

“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.

Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.

“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”


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To: Colofornian

So. We elect a Marxist for four years followed by a cult leader who considers himself a god in training. What’s next, a wiccan warlord?


401 posted on 10/19/2012 9:59:17 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: DelphiUser

>>He’s not obama,,,

And he’s the only one who can remove this regime from power...
And - he picked Paul Ryan.

I wish Romney were in my Church, but to not act to remove this regime because he is a LDS?

Not smart and far from the moral, principled or spiritual high ground.

I think anyone objective can see there’s something off with all the venting over this by a small group; to me, it just seems harmful - to our nation and to themselves.

You’ve been very patient with all the flames sent your way.


402 posted on 10/19/2012 10:20:08 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Romney obviously respects the Church, who knows, maybe Ryan will convert him to Catholicism if they spend a few years together.

I’m doing my Christian duty to help that along.

:)


403 posted on 10/19/2012 10:23:32 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Salvation

On my goodness, I have never been called such nice names before...:O) Thank you.....GG


404 posted on 10/19/2012 10:44:40 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: Colofornian

This is worthy of no consideration or discussion whatsoever, prior to 7 November.


405 posted on 10/19/2012 10:51:22 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: D-fendr

This all makes little difference with a current prez who governs like a Muslim.


406 posted on 10/19/2012 11:00:03 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: goat granny
You should come right out and say you want Obama to win.

Now Granny, you probably KNOW that this isn't correct.

Color and myself have PLENTY of good, biblical reasons to warn folks about the teachings of MORMONism; and they have been SHOWN on this thread.


In only a couple more weeks, it will be quite evident AFTER the election, when the likes of us are STILL on MORMONism's case, that we are NOT Obama lovers or wanters as some have claimed.

407 posted on 10/20/2012 5:19:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goat granny
...I will take Romney and Mormon over Marxist/Muslim any day of the week..

I hope that LOTS of folks feel the same way, as the country is in quite a mess politically.


But, I also hope, that after 8 years of Mitt, that MORMONism will have had SO much exposure, that it will have released thousands from it's grip.

408 posted on 10/20/2012 5:23:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfuTx8e5ggI


409 posted on 10/20/2012 5:33:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Well, you’re no hypocrit, you’re still using the Religion forum at Freerepublic as your personal political activism forum.

Yup!

AIN'T IT wonderful!!

After all; it would probably be hard for Jim to change it to Free(most of the time)republic now.

410 posted on 10/20/2012 5:36:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian; DelphiUser

How DARE you use FACTS to point out things in MORMONism that just MIGHT make some undecided folks go HHHMMMmmm...

—MormonDude(Just WAIT ‘til DelphiUser gets his hands on a REAL keyboard! THEN you’ll get swamped with spin!)


411 posted on 10/20/2012 5:38:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goat granny
Billy Graham gave his full approval to Romney...

Full?

412 posted on 10/20/2012 5:40:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
Your posts have gone increasing off the subject and now into space.


 
 
If You Could Hie to Kolob
 #284 – William W. Phelps

1. If you could hie to Kolob In the twinkling of an eye,
    And then continue onward With that same speed to fly,
    Do you think that you could ever, Through all eternity,
    Find out the generation Where Gods began to be?

2. Or see the grand beginning, Where space did not extend?
    Or view the last creation, Where Gods and matter end?
    Me thinks the Spirit whispers, “No man has found ‘pure space,’
    Nor seen the outside curtains, Where nothing has a place.”

3. The works of God continue, And worlds and lives abound;
    Improvement and progression Have one eternal round.
    There is no end to matter; There is no end to space;
    There is no end to spirit; There is no end to race.

4. There is no end to virtue; There is no end to might;
    There is no end to wisdom; There is no end to light.
    There is no end to union; There is no end to youth;
    There is no end to priesthood; There is no end to truth.

5. There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
    There is no end to being; There is no death above.
    There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
    There is no end to being; There is no death above.

 
 
 
 
 

413 posted on 10/20/2012 5:41:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
There is not ONE MORMON on FR that wants ROMNEY as president.

"What we have here is a geographical oddity."

414 posted on 10/20/2012 5:42:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goat granny
Burrrr cold in Michigan

Ooooh! How far north?

My goats are getting their winter fur and I'm in central Indiana

415 posted on 10/20/2012 5:44:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
My father was a Mason before he became a Mormon and kept every covenant he made with them.

Did his dedication rub off on you?

Have you completely kept every covenant YOU made in the Temple?

416 posted on 10/20/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Matthew 5:11

“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.


417 posted on 10/20/2012 5:48:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goat granny
To me that was an insult to many blacks....

And just LOOK what has happened to their culture since that time!

Well; the Liberals had good intentions!!

418 posted on 10/20/2012 5:50:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Godzilla, If I give you my solemn word, not to reveal a conversation and I reveal it anyway. I am a liar.

DU, If you give your solemn word to a DECEIVER, not to reveal a conversation and you FAIL to reveal it after finding out you've been deceived; you are a fool.

419 posted on 10/20/2012 5:52:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Opinions are not reality.

Fact?

Or OPINION??


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

420 posted on 10/20/2012 5:53:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CommerceComet

He knows that. His spinning ability is a bit rusty yet.

Give him time to ramp up again.


421 posted on 10/20/2012 5:55:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Louis Foxwell
What’s next, a wiccan warlord?

Could be!

Jereboam led to Reheboam...


http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/1112.htm

422 posted on 10/20/2012 5:59:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
Romney obviously respects the Church, who knows, maybe Ryan will convert him to Catholicism if they spend a few years together.

(Where's Drudge's flashing light when I need it!!)



Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

423 posted on 10/20/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
... who knows, maybe Ryan will convert him to Catholicism if they spend a few years together.

I'm afraid the data will show that MormonISM has sucked in more 'catholics' than the RCC has 'mormons'.

424 posted on 10/20/2012 6:05:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cynwoody
This is worthy of no consideration or discussion whatsoever, prior to 7 November.

If you say so; but doesn't the fact that you replied indicate something else?

425 posted on 10/20/2012 6:06:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JerseyDvl
This all makes little difference with a current prez who governs like a Muslim.

Yeppers. Well put.

426 posted on 10/20/2012 6:34:05 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

ping


427 posted on 10/20/2012 6:41:11 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: D-fendr

ping


428 posted on 10/20/2012 6:41:19 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: DelphiUser; Tennessee Nana
If I give you my solemn word, not to reveal a conversation and I reveal it anyway. I am a liar. There is no arguing that anyone who breaks a covenant whether it be with God or man, is not a liar, that is already “settled”.

Unfortunately for your sense of 'honor', there are an abundance of videos and audio recordings that collaborate the testimony of those many, many others. But then your only recourse seems to be to call all things liars and ignore the abundance of proof out there. Since the 'covenant' is to a false god and of the works of man - it is more than correct to expose the lie. that is reality and not opinion.

429 posted on 10/20/2012 8:42:59 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: CommerceComet; DelphiUser
Good to see that things have not changed since Mormons were banned because you couldn't defend your attacks on Mormonism with logic.

Back one day and already playing the victim card.

430 posted on 10/20/2012 8:44:25 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Elsie

Pres. LBJ did more damage to the black community than the KKK ever could. Made the govern. daddy and broke up families. Idiots are genius compared to liberal democrats...


432 posted on 10/20/2012 4:53:40 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: Elsie
as far a governing, I don't think his religion will interfere with it...Like with Kennedy, he attended Mass pretty regular and I am sure he prayed a lot during his short time in office, but religion is a personal not political thing....Just my opinion, but anything is better than a marxist/muslim.....Romney as a candidate in the primaries was last on my list of who would get nominated, but it really is get that muslim out of Washington. I had to hold my nose to vote for Mccain, not so with Romney, he is at this time our only hope of sending Obama to Hawaii which is where he wants to live.....Lets hope he basked on the beaches and gets a good tan...(i am a bad girl)
433 posted on 10/20/2012 5:08:02 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: Elsie
Romney and Billy Graham has a meeting and there was an article a few weeks back that Billy Graham said he supported Romney....I have also heard that his website has taken Mormon out of the cult category....I think knowing the man is a lot different than knowing his religion...I have a son that is evangelical and very much into bible, church and is thinking when his last son is on his own, he may go into ministry...I saw that in him years ago...Everytime I mention Romney he answered with CULT. We do get into some debates but always with laughter...He was brought up Catholic...His wife has an uncle in the catholic priesthood, another sons wife also has a catholic uncle in the priesthood....we are like a conglomerate of different religions, daughter is Catholic, the other son goes to church sometimes but reads the bible....(we as a family don't get into religious discussions) not good for family relations...If it starts I shut it down real quick, they all seem to get along fine...
434 posted on 10/20/2012 5:20:44 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: goat granny
as far a governing, I don't think his religion will interfere; with it...

I'd say you are mostly right; but only GOD can see the future; OUR future...

435 posted on 10/21/2012 5:27:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

Where is it said that doing nothing is better than chosing the best choice available. There is a clear choice here, Obama = Evil, Romney = Not evil.


436 posted on 10/21/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Colofornian

seems to be your MO every election since I came to FR. Ron Paul isn’t running and will never get elected. Name one reigion that doesn’t have former believers that become detractors. In this lady’s case she has gone from LDS to LSD.


437 posted on 10/21/2012 5:45:00 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
seems to be your MO every election since I came to FR. Ron Paul isn’t running and will never get elected.

NEVER was for Ron Paul (try again, oh false one)

Name one reigion that doesn’t have former believers that become detractors.

Tho I'm a descendent of Mormons, never was one...(try again, oh false one)

Maybe since you're so bag at pegging people, perhaps you should stop trying

438 posted on 10/21/2012 1:18:38 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Where is it said that doing nothing is better than chosing the best choice available.

Yes ANOTHER false assumptive conclusion...you're trying terrible at this...

I NEVER said "do nothing"...or stay home and don't vote...

(I'm voting third party -- Virgil Goode)

439 posted on 10/21/2012 1:20:07 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Colofornian

Name one reigion that doesn’t have former believers that become detractors.

Tho I’m a descendent of Mormons, never was one...(try again, oh false one)

from art

“Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either. “


440 posted on 10/21/2012 2:31:09 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/10/erickson.shtm


441 posted on 10/21/2012 3:00:32 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Elsie

Your right on that Elsie...but another 4 years of obama is really scary..hope God doesn’t punish us with him as CIC for another 4years


442 posted on 10/21/2012 3:34:27 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: Elsie

But, I also hope, that after 8 years of Mitt, that MORMONism will have had SO much exposure, that it will have released thousands from it’s grip.


Wow, and here I thought that you and your friends just spend the last couple of years on FR saying just the opposite, at every opportunity you could... that a Romney presidency would serve a boon to the church.

You folks just can’t have it both ways. Make up your mind.


443 posted on 10/21/2012 9:02:22 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Colofornian

Voting for Virgil Goode, is staying home. But you are certain that it makes a statement. It does make a statement, that you wish Ron Paul had run because Virgil Goode is such a second tier third party candidate. Get out of mom and dad’s basement and put on your big girl panties.


444 posted on 10/21/2012 9:24:01 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"you are certain"

Attributing motive and mind reading are forms of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

445 posted on 10/21/2012 9:30:44 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Conspiracy Guy

RON PAUL is still in the race.


446 posted on 10/21/2012 9:44:09 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: goat granny
Your right on that Elsie...but another 4 years of obama is really scary..hope God doesn’t punish us with him as CIC for another 4years

We sure as hell deserve to be punished for SOMETHING by SOMEONE!!!




Are you SURE you want to legalize HOMOSEXUAL 'marriage'?

-- GOD


 

447 posted on 10/22/2012 6:09:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ripliancum
You folks just can’t have it both ways. Make up your mind.

Why not?

MORMONs do it ALL the time!

You gotm Haqrry and Mitt - polar opposites - both poster boys.

448 posted on 10/22/2012 6:10:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ripliancum
You folks just can’t have it both ways. Make up your mind.

Why not?

MORMONs do it ALL the time!

You got Harry and Mitt - polar opposites - both poster boys.

449 posted on 10/22/2012 6:11:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Ha, you just did it again.

You guys were all over FR last year saying Mitt was just like Harry, a liberal scum. Now they are polar opposites.

Seriously, If I were you, I’d stick to the cut and paste you are infamous for.

That seems to work better for you. ;-)


450 posted on 10/22/2012 11:55:01 AM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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