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To: SumProVita
Dear SumProVita,

“It took me a long time to learn to put my trust in God....”

By saying this to me, I could readily infer that you think I don't. Be careful of the assumptions you make.

“I don’t agree with that...because I think God has a plan in all of this.”

God always has a plan. And God somehow figures out how things will be worked into his plan. So, when Islam wiped out nearly every trace of Christianity in the 7th century in what is now Saudi Arabia, I'm sure God's plan is in there, somewhere. But for the Christians who were wiped out,... well,...

Christians were annihilated in Saudi Arabia, in Afghanistan, nearly so in any number of other countries, and those that survived have lives under daily persecution, and have so lived for FOURTEEN HUNDRED YEARS in a lot of these hellholes under these barbarian savages.

I believe in God, I believe that He will save us ultimately, and that those who die in a state of grace will be with Him in Heaven. Doesn't mean the United States might not be completely lost to Satan for centuries to come. Doesn't mean there is going to be anything to pick up after the Kenyan anti-Christ is through with us.

Maybe there might be. Maybe there won't.

God's plan, God's grace, God's kindness, none of these imply, none of these require that the United States survive, or that it remains Christian, or that the Christians in America will survive, or that most of us won't be killed.

“So, sitetest, I honestly believe that the roots of the American people ARE predominantly found in the Christian view...”

That's nice. So were the roots of a lot of nice Christians throughout the Middle East, who, nonetheless are no more, or who have lived with over a millennium of oppression.

That may be our fate, here, and if it is, we will have to learn to live with it. Perhaps it will be God's will that many of us may be martyred. And at the Eschaton, all will have been for the best. Certainly.

But, like St. Thomas More, I never desired martyrdom, never sought it out. You'll forgive me if I don't face the destruction of what was once a decent society, of all that was good and decent in America, and of all those innocents who are being and will be destroyed in America, with a big happy-faced smile painted across my face.

It is permitted to mourn what is lost.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 5:41:11 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

By saying this to me, I could readily infer that you think I don’t.


It was not my intention to imply that at all...honestly.

“It is permitted to mourn what is lost.”


Absolutely! It is also prudent to fully understand the horror ahead of us...and then, get to work!

Each of us...must unite more fully with the faithful and like-minded in our local area of influence. I am talking even down to the neighborhood area...for prayer and preparation.

44 posted on 11/09/2012 5:55:53 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: sitetest

Another thought: Let’s not forget the true story of Corrie Ten Boom.

“When I was a little girl…, I went to my father and said, “Daddy, I am afraid that I will never be strong enough to be a martyr for Jesus Christ.” “Tell me,” said Father, “When you take a train trip to Amsterdam, when do I give you the money for the ticket? Three weeks before?”

“No, Daddy, you give me the money for the ticket just before we get on the train.” “That is right,” my father said, “and so it is with God’s strength. Our Father in Heaven knows when you will need the strength to be a martyr for Jesus Christ. He will supply all you need – just in time.“”

45 posted on 11/09/2012 6:00:08 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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