Posted on 12/25/2012 9:50:07 AM PST by narses
Obviously those called by the father, as stated in John 6, but the nicolaitans will try to make it a pharisaical corporation until Yeshua returns to show them different.
You’ve already discarded all of the New Testament. So I’m not quite sure what else you have to say about it.
“The keys to the kingdom of heaven is salvation by faith.”
Ahh. more interpolations. :)
Does the passage actually say this? No? Curious, that. You deny the passage as written.
“Obviously those called by the father, as stated in John 6, but the nicolaitans will try to make it a pharisaical corporation until Yeshua returns to show them different.”
Where does scripture say this?
So, nowhere in the NT, does scripture actually say that the Church is merely a mystical body.
Thank you. :)
The Gospels are clear. Nailed above His head. A tau cross would have the crucified individual's head above the crossbar. A bit of a problem, no?
Slippery falsehood!
Paul told his flock to hold what he said and what he wrote, and both of those are the same, exactly to the word.
Nope. Paul said 'we' and 'us'. That means the Church, not just a single person.
Paul was not a deceiver, and would never speak that which he didn’t put in writing for the future. Paul was especially aware of the coming falling away and corruption, and the absolute requirement for all to be preserved in the written word, as it was, and spoke to it by telling each congregation to share the letters they received with all the other congregations.
And how was that sharing to be done? Email? Remember that 98% of Christians at that time could not read. Most were dirt poor subsistance farmers or menial workers. They had no money. Who would they pay to copy out by hand all of these letters?
The Lord has called us out of Churchianity, calling it the Harlot and her daughters.
Chapter and verse, if you would please.
Thank you. :)
Yah'shua did not create nor charter an earthly kingdom nor corporation. He "called out" those who were given to Him by the Father. They were "called out" to hear and be DOers of the WORD. James, brother of Yah'shua said: You continue to use church in upper case.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Jam 1:22 But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves.
Seek YHvH in His WORD !
And there’s still no actual evidence for the position that Paul ever taught that the Church was only a mystical body.
>> “And how was that sharing to be done?” <<
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Why do you not read his epistles and find out?
At the end of most of his epistles, he calls for them to be shared with other congregations.
>> “A tau cross would have the crucified individual’s head above the crossbar.” <<
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An obvious physical impossibility. What would hold the body up?
The sag of the arms and shoulders would place the head at least a foot and a half below the bar to which the wrists were nailed.
Ever done chin-ups? does your body just float up?
Rav Sha'ul never taught that the "church" was
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
to be an Earthly Empire wedded to the world.
. An obvious physical impossibility. What would hold the body up?
The whole thing is to make the individual strain to hold himself up else he will suffocate. Crucifixion was not designed to do anything more than to try to get the maximum suffering by suffocation. The nails just ensured that the person didn't get away easily, and also in rather painful fashion. And the feet were nailed in place as well.
. Why do you not read his epistles and find out?
At the end of most of his epistles, he calls for them to be shared with other congregations.
The Jewish oral tradition was the most advanced in the world.
The Jewish oral tradition was also completely rebuked by Yeshua. The false oral Torah was clearly the progenitor of the Catholic ‘oral tradition.’
Paul sought to keep all things written because of the damage done by the Jewish takanots.
The feet were obviously nailed after he was placed on the post, else there would be no suffocation.
Negative. Since 95% of Jews and 98% of Gentiles were illiterate, that was the only way to disseminate the Good News.
Paul sought to keep all things written because of the damage done by the Jewish takanots.
Chapter and verse, please.
That is not an answer. The head of the individual on the tau cross obviously would be on the level of the crossbar.
>> “The head of the individual on the tau cross obviously would be on the level of the crossbar.” <<
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I repeat, that would be physically impossible.
Place ypour hands on a bar while supported by a box or ladder, as far apart as possible, then kick the box out.
What happens?
Your head and shoulders drop at least a foot and a half instantly.
Being a catholic must unplug one’s mind.
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