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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: Elsie
Mary & Joseph today...




We've given up sex for the Kingdom of GOD.

3,001 posted on 01/29/2013 4:59:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon; Alamo-Girl

Thanks for posting the truth.


3,002 posted on 01/29/2013 6:03:33 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Cronos
Thank you so much for sharing the artwork, dear brother in Christ! Do you have links so we can read more about them?
3,003 posted on 01/29/2013 9:03:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom
You're quite welcome, dear sister in Christ!
3,004 posted on 01/29/2013 9:05:26 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Natural Law; daniel1212
Natural Law, do not attribute motive to other Freepers, i.e. telling them what they intend. That is "making it personal" and incites flamewars.

daniel1212, don't bring arguments from previous threads forward even if for my benefit. Send it to me by Freepmail.

Both of you, do not question each other's veracity, do not make the thread "about" yourselves or any other Freeper, personally.

Discuss the message not the messenger.

3,005 posted on 05/29/2013 9:53:05 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
"Natural Law, do not attribute motive to other Freepers, i.e. telling them what they intend. That is "making it personal" and incites flamewars."What the H-E-Double Hockeysticks is this about? You are warning me about a 6 month old post that I didn't post!
3,006 posted on 05/29/2013 10:39:01 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

Give yourself to the flames...


3,007 posted on 05/30/2013 4:22:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
If we allow ourselves to be troubled by the liars, to be goaded to respond in kind or to rise to anger they will have succeeded in thier incitements to sin.

Use the force, Luke!

3,008 posted on 05/30/2013 4:23:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
.The Catholic church has paid out billions of dollars to victims of abuse....how much has your "denomination" had to lay out????.........crickets

HMMMmmm...

"To whom much is given...

3,009 posted on 05/30/2013 4:24:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
moving along, if you were a Christian in the year l694 you were either a Catholic or someone who had decided to leave the true church and strike out on your own seeking new and untested waters.....

You spelled foundering and off course wrong.

3,010 posted on 05/30/2013 4:26:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
Concede the mud hole to the pigs but continue to love and serve the lord.

But the pig owner could only say, "Have mercy on me, Lord, a sinner."

3,011 posted on 05/30/2013 4:29:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; District13; teppe
Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

And that is where BOTH you members of the Whore of Babylon are wrong, Wrong; WRONG!!!


What Joseph Smith Means to Us  (From: various sources )

 
 
 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224


3,012 posted on 05/30/2013 4:32:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; District13; teppe
that is where BOTH you members of the Whore of Babylon are wrong, Wrong; WRONG!!!


  "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"
 
 (The Seer, p. 255  Orson Pratt )

3,013 posted on 05/30/2013 4:33:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Well; what 'started' was the catholic church - small 'c'.


Somewhere along the line, the Romans decided to have their OWN division - thus the Roman Catholic Church was created to separate from those 'other' catholics who would NOT submit to it's rule.

3,014 posted on 05/30/2013 4:36:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
It takes a person, writing on them, to bring out the message......other that the ten commandments of course.

(I think you mean 'than'.)

3,015 posted on 05/30/2013 4:38:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
It takes a person, writing on them, to bring out the message......other that the ten commandments of course.

Oh?

Just what makes the 10 SELF EXPLANING?

3,016 posted on 05/30/2013 4:39:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
....the darned Catholic church makes us at least somewhat accountable for our behavior......

HMMMmmm...

I thought that GOD did that...

3,017 posted on 05/30/2013 4:40:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
>>I assume that you tithe to someone,<<

Just like they were told to do in Acts chapter 15!

3,018 posted on 05/30/2013 4:42:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
I no longer wish to expose myself to the sin that pervades the Religion Forum and concede the cesspool to those who created it.


John 17:14 "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

15 "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.

16 "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.


Hang in there, Dude!

3,019 posted on 05/30/2013 4:52:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; boatbums
Not to be picky, but, I wonder why you think your church began when Jesus was arguably but an infant, only a few years old?


 Luke 2:25-32
 

25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
    you may now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31     which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
    and the glory of your people Israel.”


3,020 posted on 05/30/2013 4:55:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
sure He will, it certainly is not the fault of the recipient that the minister is tainted....The sacrament is of Gods doing, the priest merely administers it, if you are baptized by a bad priest, you are baptized, if he hears your confession and administers the sacrament of reconciliation, you are forgiven your sins, if he marries you, you are married...He may be in trouble with God....you are not
3,021 posted on 05/30/2013 4:57:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
While they may not have witnessed it, they certainly heard about it the next day!!

That's QUICK!!!

Just how many CATHOLICS were amoung the JEWS there at that time?

3,022 posted on 05/30/2013 5:00:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator

Wow!

This thread had appeared to have finally died!

Resurrection is a FACT!!!!


3,023 posted on 05/30/2013 5:02:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
What the H-E-Double Hockeysticks is this about? You are warning me about a 6 month old post that I didn't post!

( I jumped in because I assumed (sorry) it was a current dispute!)

3,024 posted on 05/30/2013 5:03:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law

Your post 1987 was the provocation on this thread. But you are right in that the complaint of provoking flame wars should have been addressed on a current thread.


3,025 posted on 05/30/2013 6:46:55 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
"Your post 1987 was the provocation on this thread." Can you extend to me the courtesy of explaining why a six month old post is now suddenly the subject of scrutiny and the provocation for a warning when so many far more egregious flame-bait postings are ignored on a daily basis?
3,026 posted on 05/30/2013 8:27:06 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Elsie

Whoa! That came out of left field! From back in January no less. And a quote from someone else and not from me to boot! You need to go back and read that post again I think. I’ll give you a hint. When I put a quote between >> and << it’s a quote from them that I am responding to.


3,027 posted on 05/30/2013 3:19:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Noted; but tery got responded to a lot after that.

(It’s still a mystery to me how the simple letter, shown in Acts 15; has managed to accumulate SO much baggage in the last 2000 years or so.)


3,028 posted on 05/31/2013 4:55:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NYer
John Henry Newman said it best: “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.”

The other side of the coin reads:

“To be deep in history is to be PROUD to be Catholic.”

3,029 posted on 05/31/2013 4:58:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear; Elsie; metmom; Religion Moderator

If it has not been explained to you yet, it was because in a short PM to 3 persons (with the RM included) involved in a current conflict the past record of a certain poster and his//her flagrant and unapologetic violations was cited in regards to his/her current complaint. Whether PM messages are normally supposed to be dealt with and responded to like normal postings i know not.


3,030 posted on 05/31/2013 6:32:00 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

The content of private messages must not be posted on-thread. The issues raised, however, may be raised anew on-thread for open discussion.


3,031 posted on 05/31/2013 10:42:13 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks for the information.


3,032 posted on 05/31/2013 3:23:12 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie
>>(It’s still a mystery to me how the simple letter, shown in Acts 15; has managed to accumulate SO much baggage in the last 2000 years or so.)<<

The “wisdom of man” and the desire for authority and control along with a serious lack of Spiritual guidance giving the ability to rightly devide.

3,033 posted on 05/31/2013 3:44:17 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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