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Why Mormons Do Better Youth Ministry Than We Do
Christian Post ^ | 01/28/2013 | Greg Stier

Posted on 01/28/2013 2:16:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/28/2013 2:16:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

ministry - nope
indoctrination - yes.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 2:18:32 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree, leaving the theology aside, there is a lot we could learn from the Mormons. Certainly my Catholic Church is doing an underwhelming job of just hanging on to young people, let alone engaging them.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 2:24:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

I read some of the God Maker series a long time ago. Truth or not it painted an image I haven’t forgotten.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 2:25:00 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: SeekAndFind
In 1985 there were 4.5 million Mormons and now there are over 12 million.

That was more than a demographic generation ago.

If Mormons live longer due to the clean living code, and if their families average 4 children - I don't have statistics handy, but that is not a crazy number - that explains the 12 million pretty handily without many conversions.

5 posted on 01/28/2013 2:26:47 PM PST by wideawake
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I have wondered where all of the anti-Mormon trolls had gone since Romney lost and their beloved 0bama had won.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 2:27:42 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Most of us look at the clean cut Mormon missionaries that peddle the streets of our city and knock on the doors of our houses as somewhat out of date.

Pedal the streets, not peddle the streets. You'd think they were trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge or something.

7 posted on 01/28/2013 2:29:17 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This person hasn't done much research on Mormon Missionaries.

The Mormon Church has had such a problem attracting enough young men to be missionaries, that they have reduced the length of Missions from 2 years to 1.5 years.

They have also turned to pushing young women to become missionaries before they get married. Previously, the Church stressed that young women should go on missions only if they have no marriage prospects.

8 posted on 01/28/2013 2:31:20 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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The Mormon Church will never remove anyone from the official Church membership roles unless they are ex-communicated.

My entire family continues to be counted as part of that 12 million, even though we have attended a non-Mormon Church for the last twenty years.

9 posted on 01/28/2013 2:37:31 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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The Mormon Church will never remove anyone from the official Church membership roles unless they are ex-communicated.

My entire family continues to be counted as part of that 12 million, even though we have attended a non-Mormon Church for the last twenty years.

10 posted on 01/28/2013 2:37:48 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: yuleeyahoo

Really? Because I was approached in my apartment building by two you, attractive female Mormon missionaries in 1985.
And again, 1,500 miles away in 2004.


11 posted on 01/28/2013 2:38:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Service, either voluntary or coerced, is not salvation, obviously ; and there is a difference between indoctrination and discipling. The basic difference lies between teaching truth or error ; the difference between regeneration and mere vain religion.

Nevertheless, the point is well taken, and if one studies Paul's letters to Timothy and Titus, it is all too easy to see that we have FAILED miserably in our Gospel training of YOUNG MEN.

We are involved in missionary service in Asia. We can more easily see young Asian Christian men (as young as early teen years) convinced of their duties to their Savior than we can see in American churches. In the Philippines I hear conversations of Bible doctrine and of winning people to Jesus Christ among teen and young adult men very regularly. In the USA the conversation is about sports stats and automobiles.

I charge the men in the pulpits for this lack of godliness and fervency among young men. There is too much hyper-spiritualizing away of the words God spoke through His servant Paul in regards to service, training young people, marriage, family. Modern preachers have run the Scriptures through the press of modern American culture--modern youth culture.

The author is correct. We expect nothing of our young people, we only hope for their presence so that we can count heads. Expect nothing---get nothing.

12 posted on 01/28/2013 2:46:14 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Part of the growth of Mormonism is outreach - and a large part is demographic. They have 2.5 kids or more, while most Americans have 1.5.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 3:03:29 PM PST by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

I am always amused to read expert commentary on the Mormons, written by people whose exposure to Mormonism is changing planes in the Salt Lake airport.

There is more to a culture than the facade. Look for stats like divorce rates, suicide rates, prescription drug abuse, meth use, teen pregnancy, depression, actual active members, etc.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 3:04:00 PM PST by lurk
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To: showme_the_Glory

How do you rate those books?


15 posted on 01/28/2013 3:05:46 PM PST by tbw2
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To: satan

What anti-mormon threads?
Lots of anti-mormonISM which go back to 2002, apparently you have not been paying attention.


16 posted on 01/28/2013 3:06:44 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

My experiences with mormonISM goes back to 1962, the book in not untruth.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 3:11:01 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: wideawake

In addition it is almost impossible to have your named removed from their “membership” rolls.
Any other thing they do is keep people on the rolls until they reach their 110 year.
The 12 million figure is actually world wide, not just the USA.


18 posted on 01/28/2013 3:14:03 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: John Leland 1789

You are correct.
We need to teach “to serve” not “be served”.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 3:17:17 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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“I have wondered where all of the anti-Mormon trolls had gone since Romney lost and their beloved 0bama had won.”

We haven’t had the constant stream of half-truths and faulty logic to respond to ever since Saundra Duffy was banned.

For the record, once Romney had the nomination I held my nose and supported him.


20 posted on 01/28/2013 3:22:12 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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