Posted on 02/22/2013 5:43:18 PM PST by NYer
Great Welcome to the Catholic Church!
See post #312.
sure he can....God promised it and so far...so good...for 2013 years the pope has never said anything ..Ex Cathedra...that was in error.
there is a difference between studying history and learning history....he studied it.
So, an official ex cathedra declaration is officially declared infallible beforehand? Except for those retroactively declared ex cathedra that occurred prior to 1870 when papal infallability became doctrine?
Is that about right?
How many ex cathedra declarations have there been since 1870, that were officially declared beforehand? And, who retroactively determined what was and was not to be declared ex cathedra prior to 1870?
why.....if not then, when???and really not at His birth, but when He gave unto Peter the authority to lead His church and gave him the keys to the kingdom of Heaven....works for me!
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the whole of scripture is protestant.............without the Catholics there would be NO SCRIPTURE....
all the new testament characters are Catholic...when Christ established the church, all who had been baptized immediately became cATHOLIC...there were no Lutherans, Methodists, POresbeterians ...nothing...just Catholics.
SATAN believes that Christ is the savior, Hitler probably believed it, PolPot might have believed it, David Koresch believed it, for crying out loud, certainly we have some responsibilty for our redemption...it cannot be as simple as believing one fact....Jesus is the Savior....BINGO!!!!!!!!! I am saved.....please.
they NEVER make mistakes in matters of faith and morals.....NEVER.
the Catholic hierarchy mskes zillions of mistakes the pope can certainly make a mistake (he's human) we Catholics have certainly made our share of Mistakes....maybe more than our share...but when the Pope speaks "ex Cathedra"...from the Chair of Peter, he cannot err.....EVER.
I back off from NOTHING....the Catholic church, in 2013 years of existance has NEVER issued an official (ex cathedra) statement that was in error!!!!if you think I'm wrong....point out the statement!
you drew someone away from Christ's church?????shame on you and I hope you have a good time on judgement day.
Well that is not what you said.
You keep getting caught and then change what you said so your credibility is completely shot.
Of course when he is speaking officially he never errs.
Because he speaks for and to the Catholic church so all he says "officially" becomes part of the tradition.
But keep this in mind: He speaks for the Catholic church, NOT FOR God.
Twenty decades of keeping the blind sheep in line with stifling tradition and not much of the Gospel of Christ.
What a shame.
Your many posts here have shown that the Catholic church and it's many rules and proclamations are not in any way close to the church that Jesus is the head of. The Body of Christ is the Biblical Christians that are saved.
You have been shown the path to salvation and how to become part of the Body of Christ many times and apparently reject it, and now it is time to shake the dust off of my feet and move on.
If you pray and polish up all the pearls thrown your way, there is the hope of eternal life.
Have you no shame?
Have you no shame?
Have you no shame?
you bring up this magicians name time after time...are you hung up on him???
why.....if not then, when???and really not at His birth...Just repeating what you said with the EXACT number of years from now back to the day Jesus was born. And you have said OVER AND OVER again that is when the Catholic church started.
Now you change what you said before.
But you are just following the example set by your popes, say one thing and then change it as if no one would notice.
The beginning of your belief system started with Peter...Simon Peter Magus, your first pope. Works for you.
Paul, who wrote half the new testament, explained that pretty clearly
Credibility is absent from your posts.
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