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To: boatbums
Don't you think there is a difference between words and action? Scripture clearly says Jesus DID many other things that IF they had been written down, the whole world could not contain all that COULD be written. That is a far cry from insisting, as your church does, that Jesus SAID many things not written down and then attributing these "sayings" to Tradition that was orally passed down and equally binding on all Christians as his words were. They produce no real proof of what these unwritten sayings were

you have to be kidding....Jesus was a human being and He said zillions of things that were not recorded...He didn't even know the apostles until He was an adult. How many wonderful things must He have said to His parents, relatives, friends, that we will never get to hear. Maybe one of His boyhood friends fell and was injured...perhaps Jesus wiped away the injury and comforted His friend.....they were ten years old, chances are that it didn't make the big book. For you, or anyone, to claim that everything that Jesus said was somehow recorded is nonsense!!!

256 posted on 02/24/2013 6:33:47 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl
you have to be kidding....Jesus was a human being and He said zillions of things that were not recorded...He didn't even know the apostles until He was an adult. How many wonderful things must He have said to His parents, relatives, friends, that we will never get to hear. Maybe one of His boyhood friends fell and was injured...perhaps Jesus wiped away the injury and comforted His friend.....they were ten years old, chances are that it didn't make the big book. For you, or anyone, to claim that everything that Jesus said was somehow recorded is nonsense!!!

Perhaps in your rush to mock and ridicule you missed my entire point! I never said EVERYTHING Jesus ever said was recorded in Scripture. What I DID say is that what was written in Scripture was so we would believe and have eternal life, like John said many times in his writings. The problem with conjecture, and that IS what imaginings about Jesus during times not spoken of in Scripture are, is that any number of things can be described. We have several writings from people back then that purported to be eye witnesses to Jesus as a kid doing certain things such as healing little baby birds or cursing someone and something bad happened to them, stuff like that. There are thousands of stories that have been and will continue to be written about Jesus and, without some verifying proof, they are nothing more than fiction - someone's fanciful and creative imagination. If the believers back in Jesus' time didn't give them any credence then, who are we thousands of years later to come along and say, "Oh, that COULD have happened. We don't really know."?

What we DO know is that whatever DID make the "book" was intended to be there for specific reasons and, as it is Divinely-inspired and God-given, it is the objective authority we have for the rule of our faith. John said he wrote what he did so that we can KNOW we have eternal life. Did he leave out anything or fail to mention something critical to our salvation? Nope. So, of course Jesus said "zillions" of words, but we can have confidence that those words he said that we, today, need to know about are there in Scripture. Holy men of God "spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" and that is what we have - God's love letter to us. The Holy Spirit did not gyp anyone. We don't need some theologians centuries after the fact to tell us all the stuff we SHOULD know about that got omitted.

271 posted on 02/24/2013 11:40:34 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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