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To: patlin

The two greatest commandments are that we are to love God with everything we are and have...that is the vertical aspect of the cross and then we are to love our neighbor as we love our selves....that is the horizontal aspect of the cross. For on those two laws hangs every law, every covenant, and every jot and tittle ever uttered by the prophets!

Did not Christ say we are to take up our individual crosses and follow him? In loving obedience to the Father Christ died for us so that the message of the Father’s love for all men could be made manifest. He wanted men to avoid the great disasters of spiritual mount Sinai as depicted in Hebrews 12 and instead, enjoy the blessings of Mount Zion...also in Hebrews 12.

It is ironic really, you mentioning Hebrews 12, because as I’ve read your postings in this thread, you advocate positions that would again lock men back into the fearful orbit of Mount Sinai instead of having men look onward to the summits of Mount Zion.

Coming to Mount Zion; that is what the cross and the resurrection have done for those who believe in the living God in Flesh...Yeshua!


164 posted on 03/12/2013 2:23:02 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: mdmathis6
As Iasked Hoggard who skipped right over the question, I ask the same of you,

That which is left of Matthew is our constant and everlasting Rock that all mankind of all ages can count on. His Words there are our everlasting examples of how His Law and Order sustains the universe and all life that is in it. Paul delighted in the Law, James called it the Law of Liberty so how can something that is delightful be bad to the taste or how can something that brings liberty be bondage?

Joh 14:11 “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, otherwise believe Me because of the works themselves. 12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he shall do also, ..."

If we truly believe in Him we will follow him and walk as He walk, do as He did which was obey the Father, not change or do away with what the Father gave.

Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets, ..."

The word 'fulfill' at the end of verse 17 cannot mean to do away with, but rather it means to fill to its fullest so it now operates as it always was meant to operate, to keep us safe, to bring blessing which is eternal life to those who trust in it because they trust in the Father as Abraham trusted in the Father. Those who don't walk as Jesus walked, don't really trust in the Father as Jesus trusted in the Father. It is that simple. Jesus is our example, not our waterboy.

186 posted on 03/14/2013 10:29:44 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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