Posted on 03/26/2013 6:56:09 AM PDT by NYer
So, it’s not similar to the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible, I never said it was.
I have, over the years, explained what I believe in...that is one God, creator of all. I don’t know how to simplify it for you. If you need more, be specific and I will try to answer.
What does truth mean to you? That IS my question.
What would you call your religion? What, if any, of the major religions is it closest to?
I don’t have a religion that I know of.
None that I know of, but I don’t know all of the religions. What would you suggest?
I’ve never had a need or desire to name my beliefs until now.
Something that can be proven to anyone, at any time during history, without question, I guess.
I have to admit, I’ve never had the need or desire to define it.
It seems complicated, this need to define truth.
If I said I was hungry, then that would be true, but how could I prove it to you? If I said I believe in God, how could I prove it to you?
If I held up 2 fingers on each hand and then asked you to represent that number using only one hand, then you would hold up 4 fingers on one hand, that would be a truth, wouldn’t it? Or do you need more?
yes, the strategy is to put/keep his opponent on the defensive with questions and avoid having to defend his own position. This is my first go-round with him and hopefully I’ll have enough sense to make it my last. Thanks for the advice.
Based on your posting history, I honestly think your religion could be described as narcissism,
Nothing you have professed originates outside of yourself.
You have my pity.
You have said....”For me, the conscience is the source for right or wrong.”
Then you lay claim that you are your source and standard of truth,...it is your “opinion” what determines how you destinguish truth from error?
Objective truth is not dependent on proof or argument. It is what is... truth is reality. Your hunger and your belief is subjective truth. Mathematics, however, is a good example of objective truth as far as I understand. It appears you do not perceive the difference between objective and subjective. Thus, God’s existence for you depends on man’s prooving Him to exist. For me, God’s existence does not depend on prooving Him to be. God has given us good and sufficient reason to believe in Him but His existence does not depend on our belief. Our different starting points makes our discussion unproductive. It has been an education of sorts.
Muslims teach that Jesus will return and subordinate Himself to the Muslim Mahdi. Jesus will then perform a pilgrimage to Mecca and institute Sharia law worldwide. He will judge the world, but according to Islamic law, and He will destroy Christianity. After living on the earth for forty years, our Lord (their "prophet") will marry and have children, and die.
According to Islam, He will return and "break the Cross."
ok, thanks
No, I do not. As I have said a number of times, I believe it’s from God...but you certainly have your right to judge me any way you want, as it changes nothing.
I have no need to prove there is one God, it’s self-evident to me. If you have a problem with other people’s self-evidence, ok.
Yes, the way they describe Issa, he is the literal anti-Christ.
So, do you agree with the first half of my statement, but not the second? “God has given us good and sufficient reason to believe in Him ... but His existence does not depend on our belief.”
‘Tis true. And very sad.
You said ...”I believe (conscious) it’s from God”..
That is understood and accepted, as mentioned before...but the question remains....
How do you determine if what your conscious is telling you is right or wrong?
You had to be taught somewhere along the line, conscious does not operate without teaching...a source...to define what is right or wrong.
“God has given us/me good and sufficient reason to believe in Him ... but His existence does not depend on our/my belief.”
I agree with all of the above, but of course I can only speak for myself
...is this some sort of trick question that you’re going to twist around somehow?
Excellant point.....
“...God’s existence does not depend on prooving Him to be. God has given us good and sufficient reason to believe in Him... but His existence does not depend on our belief.”
Exactly.
Baloney. God cannot lie and cannot change and will not reveal Himself to others based on their preferences.
I don't know what you're up to on this forum, but it's no good, for sure. None of the arguments, contentions, or "questions" you ask even make sense.
You are free to believe in a god of your own choosing, God gives you that option, but you have to do it by his rules and nobody on this forum is going to tell you what your itching ears want to hear.
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