Rick Warren is not one of my favorite Pastors, but I feel very badly for him right now. This has to be a terrible hole in his heart, and he deserves our prayers.
He has my prayers and deepest sympathy. Losing one of your children is horrible no matter what the cause.
Prayers to all concerned. My brother suffered the same thing and sadly took his life too. Those who have seen the likes of these suffer, truly know how blessed they truly are.
Hoo Boy, The left will latch onto this.
Prayers for the family.
This is very sad. One lost soul and a devastated family.
Makes me wonder. If all those doctors couldn’t help him it makes me think beyond mere depression. Something more was going on here. It reminds me a bit of that movie The Exorcism of Emily Rose. Scary and sad.
My prayers for the family.
>> “just wow, what could have caused this?” <<
The very same demons that torment Rick.
My condolences to the Warren family. Losing a child is perhaps the worst pain someone can endure.
Oh, this is so sad. So sorry for his loss and for his family. When we see our own children going astray it breaks our hearts but each of God’s children makes his/her own decisions. God bless the Warren family during this time of sorrow.
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However, prayers for healing is not the primary method by which God Almighty works today; it is by Grace and not signs and wonders and miracles of healings... those were for ISRAEL. Although I know that some types of healings are possible but this does not mean that God heals everybody that asks for it - for what is our purpose today: we are declared SONS of GOD and we are appointed to SUFFER for Christ's SAKE to become MATURE SONS, as I currently am a such a SON of my FATHER GOD - like Father like son.
Romans 8:17: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Romans 8:18: For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
We are fighting against SATANS' powers and principalities in the heavenly places, which one day, we SONS of GOD shall replenish those evil devils
Romans 8:38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come
Ephesians 3:10: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God
Ephesians 6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
The sooner people recognize that we are SONS of GOD and SUFFER for Christ's SAKE, and grow in GOD's plan and purpose for His SONS which we are by His declaration in Romans, then the better we all will be for the GLORY to be revealed in us as JOINT-HEIRS of Christ IN HIS GLORY. Not all believer-saints receive the JOINT-HEIRS of Christ; but all believer-saints receive the heir of GOD.
So drugs, sex and rock and roll didn’t help? Did Rick ever consider that Jesus might be the answer?
I can’t stand Rick Warren, but I am sorry to hear of this loss.
warren’s son and suicide
“....what could have caused this?”
Attack. Satanic attack. He goes after the family members of effective pastors.
Prayers for Rick and his family.
Man, it’s so great to have persons (of all genders and) of all more or less crazy religious sects represented here today. WHAT A CROWD! WHAT A CROWD! The answer to a headache, according to one well known sect is not an aspirin and call me in the morning, but, of course, Jesus!
Most churches have long recognized that mental illness is almost always nobody’s fault, and concerns that it is caused by demons are almost always wrong.
A superb example of this is found in pernicious anemia, the inability to absorb vitamin B12 in your food. People thus afflicted could become raving maniacs, in straightjackets and tied to their beds, insane 24 hours a day until they died. Vitamin B12 is essential for every living cell in your body.
In any event, when a liquid B12 shot was developed, the change in the victims of pernicious anemia was amazing to see. A madwoman (since it mostly affects women), would be screaming, straining at her restraints, incoherent, every voluntary muscle tense. As soon as she was injected in the arm, within seconds her arm relaxed, and you could see her muscles relax as it flowed through her body, until she was completely calm.
Then she would open her eyes, utterly puzzled, and say, “Where am I? Who are you people?” or words to that effect, before wondering why she was restrained and wanting to see her family. Thereafter every two or three weeks, she would get another shot and be right as rain for the rest of her life.
But that was easy. Chronic depression, the most common mental illness, is often exceedingly hard to treat. And when people rapidly cycle into depression, called manic depression, someone who was bright, cheery, gregarious, smart, and fun to be around one moment, will be taken down with severe depression, stripped of their joy, their energy, their strength, their motivation to live.
In this state, despair reigns, movement is exhausting, bright lights, bright colors, and other people are just painful. They want to curl up in a ball in the dark and be nothing. They don’t want to even try anymore.
There can be no explanation when mental illness is the cause. A very good friend of mine has a history of mental illness, his daughter suffers from it also and is on medication and has been advised not to have children, and his only son committed suicide at the age of 32.
Contrary to what a few folks on this site who will show up shortly have to say about suicide and selfishness, it is a medical illness caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.........
My prayers go out to Mr. Warren's family and every other family that has had to face the loss of a loved one due to this insidious, self destructive disease.......
there is no such thing as “mental illness”. Those are the dumb doctors no knowing that the demons attack the minds of humans and for Rick to not know that show a very very severe lacking of understanding. I am very sorry that he was not able to help his son. If he could have led him to fhu.com instead of all of his bible teachings, the young man could have been saved.
People who kill themselves are either in pain or terribly self-focused. They don’t care how their act hurts others. It’s all about them.
I tried it when I was 17. It was stupid of me. It’s the ultimate act of self-worship. Yeah, I know they have no hope for the future. I was there. But I should have been looking for hope.
I knew someone who did it because he went off his meds and thought he wanted to hurt his family. Everyone thought it was noble but I thought it was more noble to stay on the meds.
I hurt for the family but I also have anger for the son.
Just saw this on the news a few minutes ago. Very sad development... many prayers up for strength and comfort for the Warren family. Nothing compares to the earth-shattering heartbreak of losing a child.
Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy for the sin of despair committed by Thy servant Matthew and lead his soul to heaven.
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen.