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Vatican corrects infallible pope: atheists will still burn in hell
Irish Central ^ | 5/26/2013

Posted on 05/27/2013 7:43:17 AM PDT by DaveMSmith

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To: GeronL
I am not Catholic or offended.No...I wasn't clear in that I was just making a statement...Not directed at you...
141 posted on 05/28/2013 5:19:22 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: txrefugee

It is exactly the teachings of Jesus that he teaches.

Jesus defines “believing” many times as DOING WHAT HE TEACHES not professing belief or making vain declarations or showy appearances in a church. In particular in Matthew 25:31-46 he speaks of separating all mankind into those who feed the hungry, clothe the poor, visit the prisoner (his sheep) ... and those who do not as “goats” who are rejected no matter how vehemently they claim to be righteous church goers.


142 posted on 05/28/2013 6:00:10 PM PDT by amiableCDN
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To: gitmo

You realize that there was no “infallible statement,” right?


143 posted on 05/29/2013 5:43:37 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

But was it one of the “inerrant” ones? You tell us.


144 posted on 05/29/2013 8:42:19 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Iscool

The report doesn’t claim to be a transcript. It is just a report on some of the things the Pope said at the private Mass. I don’t have any issue with the report and I have no reason to think it’s not accurate. Rather, you said you have a problem with what the Pope _didn’t_ say during the Mass. Since you weren’t there and you didn’t read the transcript, you have no way of knowing what the Pope didn’t say. You just thought it would be fun to make a snarky remark against the Pope, with no actual thought behind it, just as you seem to enjoy insulting comments about Muslims, without offering any actual arguments against Islam. In that sense you are like the little kid who steps into the circle at the end of a fight and gratuitously kicks the loser. Whether that kid deserved to lose or not is something beyond your intellectual capabilites to determine.


145 posted on 05/30/2013 10:34:15 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland

Seems to me your fight is with the Vatican...They are the one who put out the story from the Vatican radio station and quoted your pope...And maybe I am wrong about the muzlims...They are after all, closer to Catholics than Protestants are and they are, the religion of peace...


146 posted on 05/30/2013 6:38:33 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: metmom

Learn to read, your comprehension stinks. I am addressing apostasy from Catholic teaching. If you were never a Catholic who was convinced that all of Catholic teaching was true then you can hardly be an apostate from the Church. Protestants are not apostate, since they can not be accused of once believing that the Church had the fullness of Truth. Nor would most converts come under that condemnation because for the most part they left because they could not reconcile the doubts they had with Church teaching. They did not “know” the Church had the fullness of Truth.

So again learn to read.


147 posted on 05/31/2013 4:08:47 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor

Fair enough. I can respect that statement as it is logical. If anyone knows that they are committing a great sin by embracing a faith that is condemned by God of course they risk damnation by their stubborn refusal to flee sin.


148 posted on 05/31/2013 4:16:35 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance
But if you once knew and believed and became Apostate then according to the Church you will go to hell. By the way this believing is much more than just going to Mass or even believing just some of what is taught. It means being fully convinced that all of what the Church teaches is true.

My reading comprehension is just fine.

This says that if you don't agree with the Catholic church, you are going to hell.

149 posted on 05/31/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

No it does not. It says if you knew the Catholic Church held the fullness of Truth and abandoned that Truth you would go to hell. The operative word being “knew”.


150 posted on 05/31/2013 8:50:13 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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