Skip to comments.Sergeant dismissed for saying ... nothing
Posted on 08/16/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
Due to a perceived slight against homosexuality, Senior Master Sgt. Phillip Monk is in a fight for his career. The Lackland Air Force base first sergeant was told by his commanding officer to clear out his office on Aug. 9. The point of contention reportedly is not about anything Monk said, but what he refused to say.
"It's all because he didn't say anything wrong. He thought it," said Steven Branson, pastor of Village Parkway Baptist Church in San Antonio. Monk, his wife and their three teenage sons faithfully attend services each Sunday the pastor said.
Branson said he has been in touch with Monk since the sergeant told him Sunday (Aug. 11) of the untenable situation. The pastor said Monk feels abandoned by the institution he has served for 19 years. Deployed as a medic, Monk devoted himself to saving the lives of his fellow service men and women, according to his pastor.
"Now I'm in trouble," Monk told Branson, "and everybody's leaving me behind."
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I have posted this before, but this was an experience I had back around 2010...
Open homosexuality in the military is disturbing to me on so many fronts.
I had the opportunity about three years ago to spend some time with a former USMC and Air National Guard pilot who retired as a Col. after 28 years. He had flown combat in Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He had flown every fighter in the US inventory except for the F-22, and as I sat in his house looking at all the plaques on the wall, I could easily see this guy was Sierra Hotel. He’d gone to all schools, Top Gun, you name it. He had testimonials, pictures of him with famous people shaking hands, you could tell he made a mark.
His son was 16 years old. He was an impressive looking kid, crewcut, very athletic build, the most notable thing about him was his bearing. He met me at the door when I arrived, very polite and well spoken. He was wearing a USMC T-shirt, and looked like he was already in the Marines.
I spent about 4 hours with this career aviator, who had just retired from the military and was now flying Boeing airliners to Japan. He was a devout Christian, and told me that he had tendered his resignation because of the pro-homosexual policies he saw coming down from above. He did confess to me that the decision was probably easier for him to make because he was closer to retirement, and that there were going to be many younger officers like him who were going to be forced to make a decision that wasn’t going to be nearly as easy as his because they still had much of their careers in front of them.
He told me that he had made some DVDs dealing with the subject, but had not release them for public consumption. He talked to me about the homosexual agenda, and what their goals were. This man was not a bug eyed, spittle lipped fanatic. He was a well educated, religious man who spoke in even terms about this issue.
He spoke about his son. He said his son was trying to obtain an Olympic slot in judo, and had been preparing to join the Marines. He said that his son was very focused, and had his religion. His son stood off to the side as we spoke, listening intently to us, but not interrupting us. I must say that I was astonished that his son was only 16 years old. He seemed completely and totally mature and adult, in complete control of himself. His father turned to his son and said Tell him what you’re reading right now.
His son said that he was reading a book named The Book of Chivalry. (This Is a Write up from Amazon.Com: The Book of Chivalry is the most pragmatic of all surviving chivalric manuals. Written at the height of the Hundred Years War, it includes the essential commonplaces of knighthood in the mid-fourteenth century and gives a close-up view of what one knight in particular absorbed of the medieval world of ideas around him, what he rejected or ignored, and what he added from his experience in camp, court, and campaign. Geoffroi de Charny was one of the quintessential figures of his age, with honors and praise bestowed upon him from both sides of the English Channel. He prepared the Book of Chivalry as a guide for members of the Company of the Star, a new but short-lived order of knights created by Jean II of France in 1352 to rival the English Order of the Garter. Elspeth Kennedy here edits the original French text of Charny and provides a facing-page translation for the modern reader. Richard. W. Kaeuper’s historical study places both man and his work in full context. In the formal themes that give Charny’s book structure, and in his many tangential comments and asides, this work proves a rich source for investigating questions about the political, military, religious, and social history of the later Middle Ages. With this translation, the prowess and piety of knights, their capacity to express themselves, their common assumptions, their views on masculine virtue, women, and love once more come vividly to life.)
I think this book would’ve been difficult reading for me, and I consider myself pretty well read and well spoken. His son expounded at length for about 10 min. on this book. Not once did he hem or haw, pause, say the phrases uh”, “ahh”, “you know”. He talked about the concepts in the book, and how the core of the book was about caring for people who are weaker than you are, and that was what chivalry was really all about. It was astonishing. The 16-year-old kid seemed so mature and focused, I hadn’t really met a 16-year-old kid like him before.
His father told me (while his son was standing there) that his son was going to wait until he was married to engage in a sexual relationship. He then turned to his son and said something to the effect of This is his choice of his own free will, not mine. We’ve talked about this at length, and he has told me how terrible it would be if I were to go out and engage in promiscuous relationships, and how ashamed he, as my son, would feel about my behavior. As an extension, he understands how will it affect him in our relationship if he were to engage in such behavior. When I looked at his son, he looked easily at and said with no discomfort, shame or reticence It’s true.
His father turned to me and said My son had been planning to join the Marines. He had been considering making a career of the military. He has decided, because of these policies towards homosexuality, that he is not going to enter the military. His father continued These people, running things, implementing these rules and policies, would have my son at their mercy. Just think of what people like that would do to a young man like him. No, I did not influence his decision in any way. But if he had asked my counsel, I would have advised him of exactly the same course.
I was stunned and dismayed. I looked at this young man who seemed incredibly talented, exactly the kind of person we want in our military. Thoughtful, educated, principled and mature. If you never read the book Once an Eagle by Anton Myrer, this kid would likely have been a living embodiment of the main character in that book, a book that is routinely read at the military academies to teach leadership.
Our government is driving away the kind of people our military has had, and needs the most, to continue to be the best in the world, and instead is openly recruiting and attracting the exact opposite. Taking all of this in was devastating to me. I saw immediately the devastation that these kind of policies regarding homosexuality are going to have our military.
I think that is why this particular incident hit me so hard.
The military now has a Dont Think, Dont Tell policy concerning Christianity.
Oh no! What they have is a scorched earth policy in regards to Christianity. Apparently if you even think wrong thoughts, that homosexuality is immoral you are punished.
Could I suggest the "Coming home network"?
Here is another rendition of the ongoing story at Lackland. You may or may not be interested. I , personally don’t like the way things are headed, but the majority of those who call themselves Americans said, via their votes, this is what they want.
That convicted thief Jessie, Jr. didn't do one thing for this country will get 8,700 a month for the rest of his life.
I hate to think what will happen to us if all the godly people left or stayed out of the military or politics.
There would be absolutely no restraint of the wicked.
How do you think 2% of the population is going to do that exactly?
How do you think 2% of the population is going to do that exactly?
Nope, that ship has sailed...
We need a:
What has to happen is somebody needs to step up who knows his stuff like the back of his hand and can debate any of these fascist commie constitution shredding punks into the ground and that man is Mark Levin. I write him all the time asking him to step up but he just won’t do it. I don’t know why.
I'll bet George Orwell regrets writing the blueprint that the far left is using.
We’ve had resets and so far it’s resulted in an admitted foreign born Islamic terror supporting communist being unconstitutionally elected twice.
I don’t know what the lunch part means,
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The ‘lunch’ was just a throw in. The reason I spent ANY time around there prior was to keep THEM informed of how their company was doing and apprised what we would be doing..
I just got to the point where I didn’t want to be ‘around’ anyone and ‘invited’ them to ‘my office’ out in the field where the ‘fish were biting’ Guess that will upset a PETA type...<; <: <: .
I am renting from a friend of mine (USMC RET) and before I moved in was talking to his wife and made some kind of statement like “They don’t call it Black Friday for nothing” or something along that line.
She informed me that she had been raised in a Marine household and bases etc, and had heard all the snide racial, sexual etc remarks she could use for a lifetime.
She started to name off a few (to show how worldly?) and when she got to “Irish Pennants”
I jumped in with “Do you mean Irish Penance?” “That is when you are ordered to say a prayer before, during and after drinking”.
She looked me straight in the eye and said “NO!— IRISH PENNANTS”
....I made/make it a point to speak when spoken to in regards to her and never comment on anything.
You Sea Service Types know what ‘Irish Pennants’ are (at least those from ‘my’ era) and I never took it ‘personal’ or figured anything Racial or Ethnic involved.
No, that is what the status quo got us.
Thanks, verga. I will keep it in mind.
I am a revert myself, if you ever want to discuss it via Freepmail, feel free.
Look around you. The huge push to supernormalize homosexuality and forbid anone saying anything that is not praise for it must have and is obviously having effects. Fewer and fewer normals are willing to say that homosexuality is not normal of even that it is not Christian. More and more boys and girls are being pushed into lock themselves into the wrong choice in a moment of pubescent confusion and are being “counseled” that they are in, fact homosexual, and must embrace it. 2% was true 40 years ago.I think it is inching up to 6 or 7% and will be 10% in the fairly near future. Then we will become more like the pagan world of yore where, men especially, behave as homosexuals until married and their adulterous acts will be as likely homosexual as hetero. In this society with radically liberated females, though perhaps it is more likely that an unnaturally large percentage of males will become exclusively homosexual.
Is the Company Commander Col. Jeanne Hardrath?
And consider, Homosexuals are just as “activist” as are Moslems. What happens to a society when it has become about 10% Moalem? Things go to hell pretty viciously. Homosexuals or Moslems when they are more than 2 or 3% grab hold of the politics and push everyone else around. Everything after that is about placating the Homosexuals or the Moslems.
Or possibly, Colonel Deborah J. Liddick?
We go from sex scandals and men being relieved at the top to lesbian commanders who force their ideology on underlings. And that’s in San Antonio. Got it.
“In this society with radically liberated females, though perhaps it is more likely that an unnaturally large percentage of males will become exclusively homosexual.”
I wonder how many women will be happy with that?
Or as Cervantes puts it quoting a contemporary Spanish saying in his introduction to Don Quixote:
“under my cloak the king is a joke” (one translator - appropriate in other news today) which is more accurately translated “under my cloak I kill the king”
No one is subject to the king for what he thinks in his heart - until now.
“y estás en tu casa, donde eres señor de ella, como el rey de sus alcabalas, y sabes lo que comúnmente se dice, que debajo de mi manto, al rey mato.”
“thou art in thine own house and master of it as much as the king of his taxes and thou knowest the common saying, “Under my cloak I kill the king;”
now watch that get me audited or something...
They don't in part because to do so would mean a huge walkout of people AND contributions.
This sergeant is a brave man. He has principles. I see that in many of the Baptists I have met.
Two of my brothers have joined the same Baptist Church, so I have gone there for various things and have been impressed.
Hate to say it, but I have never liked having female commanders - every last one of them had some sort of twist that just didn’t sit right and which detracted from military professionalism and legal objectivity.
That’s a great account, and I remember reading it before.. it’d be a good editorial to run in the Army, Navy and Air Force Times. The modern, homo-friendly military had better get used to having Bradley Manning as the rule, not the exception.
True, but the godly people would be facing endless persecution and marginalization in uniform, serving the whims of a government gone rogue. At least outside of the military they’re in our communities.
Yep. They also seemed to have an innate animus toward men, and it showed in their attitudes.
They are running to homosexuality, too, because it is ever so fashionable. You get that in a culture that abjures marriage and scares off the men from marriage.
and conservative Presbyterian denominations, and other conservative evangelicals that are not Baptists.
ThoughtCrime is the PC way. It's coming to my job next month. It will come to yours soon.
That is exactly where this seems to be headed.
Do you think leaving the military to radical atheists and militant homosexuals is a smart thing?
>>Do you think leaving the military to radical atheists and militant homosexuals is a smart thing?<<
Collectively you are correct.
But I can’t conscience the people I know submitting themselves to moral slavery.
While it's good to find a good church where there is good teaching and support, God can be found without religion.
The good news is that He WANTS to have a relationship with us and reveal Himself to us.
Just ask Him. He will do it.
Romans 10:9-13 .... because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame. For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
John 1:12-13 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
James 4:8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.
I agree. Putting women in those positions in the military has been a complete and utter disaster. But then again, feminizing, homosexualizing and Mohammedanizing the US military are all parts of the leftist goal to ultimately destroy it.
I work for a small company. I never talk about this issue at my job because I have what many today would a call a radical viewpoint, i.e., I actually focus on my actual work and little or nothing else. But if my boss who claims to be an actual churchgoing Christian actually asked me to voice an opinion on it, I would point back to what the Scripture says.
When you say it’s coming to your job next month do you mean they’re about to put you through that PC brainwashing known as “sensitivity training”?
It’s because they’re jealous because they can’t be men.
“These people are nasty evil deceitful people and will go to great lengths to get revenge for perceived slights. The queer commander is pursuing this because she believes the first sergeant thinks that she is less than but she doesnt have any proof. The one thing that the queers cant order or legislate is acceptance.”
They’re certainly doing their best to try to force it. But they must know deep down that forced “acceptance” is no true acceptance at all. Despite all the gains they’ve made in advancing this homonazi tyranny on our nation, they’ll never be happy.
Liberalism is a mental disorder:
No matter what the say or do...queers are queer. Homos need to face the fact that they are queer.
Euphemistically called "Diversity and Inclusion Training." If they ask my opinion, I will have no problem expressing it.
I would tell them, “Of course we have diversity....Di Longer you Verk here, Diverse it gets.”