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To: pgkdan
...many of his comments border on heresy...

It seems to me that this pope is saying exactly what he wants to say and his words are being interpretted exactly as he wants them interpretted.

It is difficult to escape this conclusion.

If Pope Benedict XVI were not still alive, most of us would not even be entertaining these thoughts.

But the idea of an anti-pope in our time haunts our fears, and has foundation in Catholic prophecy.

25 posted on 10/09/2013 9:05:27 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

The Bible says that in the end times most professed believers would be led astray.

I don’t know what an “anti-Pope” is since I don’t follow earthly Gods.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 9:07:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Dear Brian,

“It seems to me that this pope is saying exactly what he wants to say and his words are being interpretted exactly as he wants them interpreted.”

Actually, I don't believe this is true. I could be wrong, but my sense is that Pope Franky is just intellectually sloppy. He blurts out whatever comes to his fertile mind, and doesn't look back.

When I look at remarks that I assume are prepared beforehand (such as his remarks during his audiences, like what one sees in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3076661/posts ), it's pretty good stuff.

It's when he “grabs the mike” and starts ad libbing that we see,... unusual results.

I could speculate on the reasons for this, but I think I won't for now. But what is evident to me is that he really has no idea how his off-the-cuff remarks will be interpreted. In fact, I'm not sure he has much of an idea of what he's going to actually say much before he says it.

I think we should take his press spokesman's words to heart, that he is speaking casually, informally, that these are not magisterial pronouncements. Essentially, they're bull sessions. When I used to bowl with the Knights of Columbus, we had these sorts of conversations all the time. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with them.

The primary difference is that none of us bowlers thought that our casual conversations should have been published in the world press.

However, as I noted on another thread, the pope thinks that most clergy are narcissists. Who am I to argue?


sitetest

39 posted on 10/09/2013 9:23:05 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM; pgkdan

If one reads Pope St. Pius X’s encyclical condemning Modernism (”Pascendi Dominici Gregis,” 1907), one comes to the conclusion that Pope Francis is a full-blown Modernist. The fact that Pope St. Pius X declared Modernism to be a heresy leads to the other conclusion that Pope Francis is a heretic. It is hard to wrap one’s mind around that little factoid, but looking at the facts dispassionately and objectively leads one to that conclusion.

We must face reality in order to know how to pray.


50 posted on 10/09/2013 9:49:21 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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