Skip to comments.Evolution vs. God: Shaking the foundations of Faith
Posted on 10/17/2013 1:18:41 PM PDT by redleghunter
If you are familiar with Ray Comfort and the man on the street Way of the Master ministries, you will like this video. WoM ministries produced the linked youtube 30 minute video on Evolution vs. God. Ray and crew go to two CA universities to interview and debate science students and science faculty on Darwinian evolution.
So please set aside a half hour from your busy schedule and enjoy "Evolution vs. God."
If there is no fall of Adam, there is no original sin and no sin nature inherited by everyone of his progeny, Jesus of Nazareth excepting, of course.
Are you certain about that? William Provine prior to his despatch was a leadin spokesman for Darwinism. Here is just one of his many quotes on the subject.
Of course, it is still possible to believe in both modern evolutionary biology and a purposive force, even the Judaeo-Christian God. One can suppose that God started the whole universe or works through the laws of nature (or both). There is no contradiction between this or similar views of God and natural selection. But this view of God is also worthless
. [Such a God] has nothing to do with human morals, answers no prayers, gives no life everlasting, in fact does nothing whatsoever that is detectable. In other words, religion is compatible with modern evolutionary biology (and, indeed, all of modern science) if the religion is effectively indistinguishable from atheism.
My observation is that the great majority of modern evolutionary biologists now are atheists or something very close to that. Yet prominent atheistic or agnostic scientists publicly deny that there is any conflict between science and religion. Rather than simple intellectual dishonesty, this position is pragmatic. In the United States, elected members of Congress all proclaim to be religious. Many scientists believe that funding for science might suffer if the atheistic implications of modern science were widely understood. William B. Provine, review of Trial and Error: The American Controversy over Creation and Evolution, by Edward J. Larson (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985, 224 pp.), Academe, vol. 73 (January/February 1987), pp. 51-52 Provine was Professor of History of Biology, Cornell University
Modern science directly implies that the world is organized strictly in accordance with deterministic principles or chance. There are no purposive principles whatsoever in nature. There are no gods and no designing forces that are rationally detectable. The frequently made assertion that modern biology and the assumptions of the Judaeo-Christian tradition are fully compatible is false. William B. Provine, Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life, in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 65
A widespread theological view now exists saying that God started off the world, props it up and works through laws of nature, very subtly, so subtly that its action is undetectable. But that kind of God is effectively no different to my mind than atheism. To anyone who adopts this view I say, Great, were in the same camp; now where do we get our morals if the universe just goes grinding on as it does? This kind of God does nothing outside of the laws of nature, gives us no immortality, no foundation for morals, or any of the things that we want from a God and from religion. William B. Provine, Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life, in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 70