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Joseph Smith 'gave us everything' & XMAS vs. LMOS (Local Manifestations of 'Smithmas') [Vanity]
Colofornian | Dec. 22, 2013 | Colofornian

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:55:11 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Hulka
Unhealthy obsession, I’d say, an obsessive compulsion to post the same thing over and over. . .while only changing the title of the thread.

I see you retained YOUR copy of the memo!



Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

December 11st, 2011

 

URGENT!

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!

I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain Colorfornicator (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there.
 
Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.
 
Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.
 
As always, Tommy M.

61 posted on 12/22/2013 3:09:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
(Sounds to me like you've bought into too much of the liberal MSM spin on things)

Like watching EVERYTHING on A&E except DD??

62 posted on 12/22/2013 3:10:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: driftdiver
No, the vast majority of people just wont waste their precious time to read through the hate filled drivel which has been cut-n-pasted like all the other free speech you spout.

Hey! DD!!!

We don't LAY the eggs; merely color them!!!


Thanks rightly goes to the great MORMON religious organization that makes SO much of it's material available for ALL to see!

(We do the work others are too lazy to do; and just LOOK at the thanks WE get!)

63 posted on 12/22/2013 3:13:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Well; ya got ME!!

I thought it was a typo that I made!!


64 posted on 12/22/2013 3:15:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nifster; Rebel_Ace
How about YOU go to your church and worship as YOU see fit,
and let others go to THEIR church and let them worship as THEY see fit.

But... they are going to the WRONG church!!!

65 posted on 12/22/2013 3:19:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yes, we know you’re proud of your brothers, but would you stop posting this picture of them?


66 posted on 12/22/2013 3:20:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: driftdiver

“When they teach Christians to evangelize they teach us to speak the truth of the Bible, God and of course Jesus with love.”

Correcting error is by necessity a negative. The Apostles, God the Father and Jesus all did exactly that.

“Speaking with love softens hearts. Speak with anger or a heavy hand hardens hearts. Of course its not a simple exercise when faced with non-believers or people with lots of anger in their hearts.”

Speaking truth with love is the combination. Assuming there is no love just because error is identified and corrected is a false choice.

John the Baptist called both the Pharisees and Sadducees “a generation of Vipers” (snakes) (Matt. 3:7), he rebuked Herod the king. It was necessary to tell the truth - not just for their sake, but even more importantly to the others listening.

Paul continues this same instruction to warn believers about false teaching by writing: “”The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron...If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed” (1 Timothy 4:1-2,6)”

Paul corrected Peter to his face, calling him a hypocrite.

Paul wrote that if anyone presents a different Gospel, that he should be accursed.

The Apostle John wrote, “If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting”

The Apostle Paul tells us what to do an why: “I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”

To end here, Jesus Christ, in fulfillment of prophecy by God the Father, made a whip and cleaned out those who turned the Temple into a marketplace.

There are a number of former mormons on FR who now know Christ because of these discussions.

How many mormons have you led to faith in Christ?


67 posted on 12/22/2013 3:21:09 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate Truth)
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To: Nifster; Rebel_Ace
hope you have your flame suit on…

...because it looks like you MORMONs are going to NEED one!



"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

68 posted on 12/22/2013 3:21:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nifster
Your understanding of the constitution shows the same limitations that the rest of your logic exhibits

 
 


Welcome to MORMONism 101

 

While we are waiting to start; enjoy the artwork on our walls.

If some of it seems shifty to you, just look at it real closely

 and it will stop moving, but another location will then start to crawl on you.

Do NOT think our DOCTRINE is this way!

 


 

 

69 posted on 12/22/2013 3:22:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“Satan”? Really? I was thinking more along the lines of Thomas Jefferson, “But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”


70 posted on 12/22/2013 3:23:02 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Nifster
oh that isn’t even close to being accurate…..

So says you; but the lurkers will HAVE to accept what's posted unless YOU (or another capable MORMON) corrects it.


Are you up to the task?

Do you CARE if accuracy is presented?

Is MORMONism's lies REALLY worth all that effort?

71 posted on 12/22/2013 3:23:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nifster
read about Paul and his travels in a polytheistic world… read his letters and advice about being a stumbling block as well as how to spread the gospel

PD; is this YOU???

You were ALWAYS trotting out a bunch of MORMON writing and telling folks, "...the Answer is in there!"


I miss ol' PD!

HE was about useless when it came to defending his faith; but at LEAST he had a bunch of links that showed interested people where to find the MILK of MORMONism...


Here; in his memory; is The LIST:

http://www.lds.org
http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com


72 posted on 12/22/2013 3:25:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: driftdiver
Its about bringing people to Christ, not your personal ego and proving people are wrong with a bat.

Silly wabbit!

We prove NOTHING with the bat!

It's merely used to get their attention!!!

73 posted on 12/22/2013 3:27:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AppyPappy
They only hear what they are told.

And then they don't have to THINK about it any more!!


Standard LDS responses to data put to them:
 
 1. How you interpret it is wrong... 
 2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member.... 
 3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member... 
 4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ... 
 5. So’s yer Mama! 
 6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image. 
 7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice! 
 8. Bait & Switch 
 9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.
10. "I Know It When I See It"
11. Hand waving... 
12. YOU play defense for a while. 
13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!
14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!
15. Huh? Did you say something?
16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.
17. Playing dumb.
18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.
19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)
20. And the MOST used... IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.

74 posted on 12/22/2013 3:30:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: driftdiver
Speaking with love softens hearts. Speak with anger or a heavy hand hardens hearts.


 


 
Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
 


Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
 

75 posted on 12/22/2013 3:43:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

On reply #54 I finally saw it - thought that I had done it!

(Put a space before the slash next time so these old, tired eyes will catch it; maybe... ;^)


76 posted on 12/22/2013 3:45:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

So you never answered, do you get paid by the post or word?


77 posted on 12/22/2013 3:45:46 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I should, since they are MUCH older now!


78 posted on 12/22/2013 3:46:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rebel_Ace
“Satan”? Really? I was thinking more along the lines of Thomas Jefferson,


I was thinking more like Jesus:

Matthew 16:23 (niv)

Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns."


79 posted on 12/22/2013 3:49:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: driftdiver

Oh; the WORD; of course!

Otherwise you only have little witty things from me to complain about!


80 posted on 12/22/2013 3:51:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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