Posted on 03/19/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SECOND EDITION
PART ONE THE PROFESSION OF FAITH SECTION TWO THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
CHAPTER THREE I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT
ARTICLE 9 "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"
Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church
963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
>> “ then can not the soul of the unstained Mother of Christ also be influenced by our prayers?” <<
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Find it in the scriptures.
Start with Jeremiah 7
Yes, I think so.
Not sure I follow you on the last question, but I think you're correct in the general sense of your question.
Mary is Jesus’ mother. She bore Him. She is not the mother of Christ’s humanity. A mother gives birth to an individual person, not a soul, or body, or abstract concept like human nature or humanity. Mary gave birth to Someone with a unique identity: Jesus. Who is Jesus? He is God, the eternal Son. So Mary is Mother of God.
God is in me. But for me there always remains a distinction between God and me, regardless how close He might be, even if He is closer to me than my brain or heart. I am never God. I am not eternal. There was when I was not.
With Jesus the situation is decisively different. His existence did not begin with His earthly conception. Who Jesus is is eternal. One cannot distinguish between God in Him and He himself. “Jesus is the Eternal Son; He is God. So there is a strict identity between God-in-Jesus and Jesus himself. . .He is God the Eternal Son. The one who was born as a human baby, Jesus, was no other than the Eternal Son of the Father.”
Mary conceived as her son, the Eternal Son of God, who developed in her womb as a human being. After carrying Him to term, the Virgin Mary gave Him birth. She did not give birth to Jesus’ divinity. She is not the mother of the divine nature, but the mother of someone with the divine nature, someone who, as a human baby, needed to be nursed and carried, yet someone who holds the universe in existence.
The unique Son of God was begotten twice. He was born eternally of the Father before creation. Mary was not involved. He was also born in time, as the man Jesus. In this second birth, Mary played a major role. The Father’s role in Jesus' temporal birth was primary, yet Mary’s was indispensable. The same someone who was born eternally of the Father was born in Bethlehem to the Virgin Mary.
There is only one grammatical subject in Jesus, and that is God the Eternal Son. The Niceno–Constantinopolitan Creed (A.D. 381) states: “We believe. . .in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all time. . .He. . .was made flesh by the Holy Spirit from the Virgin Mary, and became man. . . .”
The word “God” carries different meanings. It often signifies the Father. If we so understand the term, Mary is not the mother of God. Obviously, she is not the mother of the Eternal Father. He is her source and the source of all. She is not His source. The word “God” also refers to the Trinity. Clearly Mary is not the mother of the Trinity. “God,” likewise, signifies One who possesses the divine nature. Because it is possessed, “owned,” equally, though differently, by Father, Son and Holy Spirit, each Trinitarian Person is necessarily and equally God.
Since the Son of God is God and Mary carried Him as a human being in her womb, ultimately giving Him birth, she is the mother of God. She mothered Him in His acquired humanity. The Divine Son, eternal and without beginning, experienced an earthly beginning through Mary.
Mary is our mother by adoption. But she is the natural mother of God the Son. He is the fruit of her womb, Jesus.
Catholics approach Jesus all the time. Every day when I receive Communion.
Where did you get the strange notion that Catholics are afraid to approach Jesus?
Do you understand transubstantiation?
trans = transfer
substantiation = substance.
The substance of bread and wine is changed into the Body and Blood of Christ as Jesus did at the Last Supper when he said, “This is my Body.” “This is my Blood.”
My understanding is that is not what they do and I had this conversation many times over the years with Catholics.
And you know this how? Since when do you sit in the judgment seat of God?
I read the word of God, and believe it.
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And the word of God led you to the conclusion that O’Connor is definitively in hell?
Understand completely, But there is no transfer of substance whatsoever. So why call it that? Do you know what the Miracle is according to Catholic teaching..., the divine miracle is that it is does not change substance. It is a miracle that is stays a wafer according to Catholic teaching. Simply confounding, but necessary to fool the masses.
Just mentioning but Martin Luther isn’t mentioned in the Bible. Nor are any of the myriad non Catholic denominations out there. But if you believe Christ was God born of Mary then it seems logical to consider the special role of Mary in God’s plan.
Christ said on the cross seeing Mary that she was indeed His Mother, but not by birth, but by doing His way through the Holy Spirit.
Saint Peter don’t ya call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store.
“The essence of our faith is JESUS CHRIST”.
AMEN.
yes.
not only this but they believe muslims can go to heaven because they love Mary. while blaspheming her Son saying He isn’t God’s Son.
In the Bible the enigmatic title "queen of heaven" appears only in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25 but similar titles occur throughout the Ancient Near East and apply to several goddesses. Anat is called the "Lady of Heaven" and the Canaanite Astarte (Ashtoreth in the Bible) and her Mesopotamian counterpart, Ishtar, also bear the title "Queen of Heaven". These goddesses are connected to the worship of the planet Venus; astral worship was particularly popular during the seventh century B.C. (2Ki 21:3; 23:11.
The exiled Judahites conceived of this queen as a fertility goddess (Jer 44:17 - 18), in whose image the women made "cakes" (v. 19). This cultic practice may also be indicated by a discovery at Mari of a baking mold in the form of a naked female with hands supporting her breasts- a well known fertility motif.
Moreover, Jeremiah's word for these cakes derives from the Akkadian for a type of bread that was often presented to Ishtar.
Jeremiah described how a family would gather wood, make a fire, prepare the bread, pour out libations and burn incense (7:18; 44:18).
Religious texts dedicated to Ishtar recount very similar steps. The Judahites were apparently following ritual practice associated with the Mesopotamian Ishtar (1Ki 11:5).
The queen of heaven exemplified the religious syncretism that plagued Israel for centuries and ultimately led to God's judgment upon his people.
Still today, believers in the God of the Bible are wise to beware of a gradual assimilation of unbiblical and even pagan concepts. The notion of a "queen of heaven" was just such an assimilation.
and she said as much. it wasn’t just for show that she said it, either.
Source?
no one denies what the bible says about Mary’s special role.
they are denying the extra-biblical fantasies that have no biblical basis that the RCC says you must believe or you’re heterodox. or worse.
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