Posted on 03/20/2014 9:14:57 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge
Friendofgeorge,
I admire your beliefs and courage. I feel the same as you about these issues and I also know it’s going to get harder and harder for those of us who do. The Left isn’t simply interested in a battle of attrition, they are actively attacking on all fronts. Many Christians, on the other hand, appear to be so afraid of offending anyone they can’t properly express the Truth of the Bible.
Bad news: it’s going to get A LOT worse.
Good news: we win. (But don’t stop spreading the life-saving truth of Christ to the lost.)
First, you judge the sin, not the sinner. The few Christians who would support the sin through their erroneous biblical interpretations need to be shown their interpretations are not supported by scripture. It is what the WORD of GOD says it is. Not what they think it says or what is politically convenient to believe it says.
Second, ask GOD for guidance on this matter. Then seek the truth. And when you have found it, go to them and preach the gospel. If you have preached the truth, the elect will be drawn, the freewill will make the wise choice.
Finally, bear mind the seriousness of what Jesus told the one under judgement who had claimed to preach and serve in his name.
It's a national disease of the spirit, not something limited to one group or another. People in this country have taken personal, individual, authority to the extreme and vote with their feet whenever anyone or any organization dares to tell them there are limits. They'll sit around and theorize an exception that suits their personal tastes and then decide they can't hang with anyone who doesn't bless or agree with their exception.
Churches, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, are trying to fight a spiritual battle against principalities and powers with the tools of this world rather than fighting the battle on with the unbeatable tools Christ has given us. As long as Christians try to rely on reason rather than faith, they'll keep losing ground.
Great post. Abortion Mills shut down in Wisconsin, Planned Parenthood defunded in States like Wisconsin and New Jersey and I believe many places. People who take strong stands like Governor Walker may well get hammered in the media. Why are we not hearing about the Christians that take strong stands instead of just pointing out some internet forum. Have people actually prayed outside of abortion facilities? Or even pray daily or weekly against abortion? Or are we just pointing out the shortcomings of others?
nope. end of discussion.
No ,see my FR home page.
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Gods Criminal Justice System VS Mans Criminal Justice System Part 2
Here in the US someone can be convicted of murder without ever having actually killed anyone, but because they were “in on it” they are guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.
In order to be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder a prosecutor must prove 3 elements to gain a conviction.
1.) The defendant intended to agree and did agree with someone to commit murder;
2.) At the time of the agreement, the defendant and [one or more of] the other alleged member[s] of the conspiracy intended that one or more of them would commit murder;
3.) (The/One of the) defendant[s] of coparticipant[s] or (both/ all) of them] committed [at least one of] the overt act[s] alleged to accomplish the murder;
Examples of this crime would be hiring a hitman. The person paying for the murder is just as guilty as the hitman.
Charles Manson claims he never killed anyone but he has been in prison for nearly 40 years for conspiracy.
WHEN SYSTEMS COLLIDE
Abortion is a perfectly legal murder in mans criminal justice system, but I submit that in Gods criminal justice system it is a sin of the most heinous sort, one that brutally ends the life of our most vulnerable and innocent members to the tune of a staggering 50 MILLION VICTIMS in the US alone, and counting.
Those directly responsible are quite obvious, but what of the coparticipants? Those that have conspired against these 50 million vulnerable innocent crime victims? It takes a massively wide conspiracy of unbelievable proportions to accomplish a crime of this unfathomable magnitude.
I submit that all those who keep this sin legal are just as guilty as those who are direct participants.
Abortion is a main plank of the Democratic platform. When you vote for a party you are putting your seal of approval on that platform. You are agreeing and supporting their goals when you cast your vote for their party.
You cannot say you disagree with their main plank yet support that main plank with your vote. This is contradictory. They are not hiding this plank so your vote is cast with open eyes knowing this.
We as human beings are amazing in our ability to justify our actions and if we are creative enough we can justify anything, including conspiring to murder 50 million vulnerable and innocent lives.
You have blood on your hands.
The excuses come fast and easy but there is no excuse for sin. None. We must take responsibility for our own sins and yes, I am absolutely saying that voting for a party that openly supports sin is enabling that sin and participating in that sin and sinning right along with that sin.
The creative justification part of us will immediately start pointing fingers at all sorts of things trying to muddy the waters, but what can possibly top 50 MILLION SENSELESS MURDERS OF THE VULNERABLE AND INNOCENT!!?? NOTHING!!
Not war, not compassion for the poor, not social policy, not fiscal policy. Nothing. This slaughter on our own soil makes the Holocaust look like childs play in comparison.
So in sheer body count alone there is no more important thing we should be voting for above this.
A Christian cannot support Abortion or gay marriage, but a Christian has zero affect on the Supreme Court one way or the other. We have zero influence on who gets on the court and what their decisions are. We can write a letter I suppose but with abortion, we can do so much more and gay marriage too.
I am in the wrong,
Not if the Bible backs up your views ,your not.
I am judging etc
Judging an abomination,Yes.
Nothing wrong or bad about that.
Thou shall not kill.
I don't know what you saw or heard, but whatever the others saw and heard led them to vote overwhelmingly pro-life, something that Catholics don't do.
Different denominations vote differently, for instance America's second largest denomination, is about an 80% pro-life vote.
Catholics not preach against abortion? My pastor talks the talk and walks the walk, I’ve seen it!
I wish however more Baptist churches would take the time they spend bashing Catholics and spend that time preaching pro life sermons. Then again that will be the day because Baptist just like the rest drank Margaret Sanger’s kool aid long ago.
I don’t remember my church ever mentioning Catholics
Gerry I believe you however I never went to your church. However, do you really want me to name names because I will.
In the case of self-defense, abortion is permissible. In all other cases, there doesn’t seem to be any moral reason to permit it.
I just don’t think it’s very common
There is a great winnowing taking place. God is separating the wheat from the chaff. Count yourself blessed.
It’s more common than you think. You are in Texas no? Come to a few baptist churches in West virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee. You’ll see a difference.
Have a nice day
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