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Pope Francis – married men could be ordained priests if world's bishops agree on it
The Tablet ^ | April 10, 2014 | Christa Pongratz-Lippitt

Posted on 04/10/2014 6:42:47 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

There are risks and rewards to married pastors/priest.

First of all, you will have to support the priest’s family. That can get a bit expensive. And he will not be able to cover the amount time a single one can.

Still, it will help in some places. You have a greater pool of canidates for the priesthood.


41 posted on 04/11/2014 6:13:37 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: boycott

“I don’t know but the Bible says Peter was married”.

And he left his wife and family to follow Jesus, just like the rest of the apostles.


42 posted on 04/11/2014 9:55:48 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

Matthew 8:14 — And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house, he saw his wife’s mother laid, and sick of a fever.


You don’t have to leave your wife and family to follow Jesus.


43 posted on 04/11/2014 10:14:10 AM PDT by boycott
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To: UB355

Yes they do.

I went to a Jesuit high school, one of the teachers (not a Jesuit) was a Roman Catholic priest who was married.

He’d been ordained as an Episcopal priest, and had converted. The Roman Catholic Church allows for such exceptions.

I’m interested in the “proven” qualifier. Perhaps the discussion was about men who are already married being ordained?


44 posted on 04/11/2014 10:25:18 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: ebb tide
Where were all the “wives” at the Last Supper?

In the kitchen, where they belong! *ducks, runs, lol*

45 posted on 04/11/2014 10:27:53 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: boycott

No you don’t, but his apostles did. He didn’t say “come with me, and bring your family”. He said just the opposite. He told them to leave everything and follow him.


46 posted on 04/11/2014 1:04:37 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

No you don’t, but his apostles did. He didn’t say “come with me, and bring your family”. He said just the opposite. He told them to leave everything and follow him.


Seems Peter made it back around to at least his family.

We’re not going to agree. To me, bishops, priests, and the Pope are men that will be judged as all of us. I find nothing wrong if they choose to marry. That’s just going my point of view and I can understand yours.


47 posted on 04/11/2014 1:36:43 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Matt 19
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed Thee; what shall we have therefore?
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

There is only one verse that even mentions Peter’s wife and that is related to the fact that his mother-in-law was sick and lived at his house. We are not even told if his wife was still alive.


48 posted on 04/11/2014 9:02:13 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

I read your profile and here’s something that we can agree on ......

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.” - John 1:1-4


49 posted on 04/11/2014 9:09:15 PM PDT by boycott
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To: ebb tide

Its a discipline. It can change. Although, right now, celibacy for the Kingdom of God is a powerful witness in our sex - society.


50 posted on 04/11/2014 9:10:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Viennacon

-— . Trust but verify. -—

Well said.


51 posted on 04/11/2014 9:14:34 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Leaning Right

-— That should carry a lot of weight, in my opinion. -—

True. But at the same time, St. Paul and Jesus commend celibacy.


52 posted on 04/11/2014 9:18:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Obligatory Mass attendance on Sundays is also a discipline. It can change.

Confession at least once a year is also a discipline. It can change.

Whoopi! We’re becoming just like the Protestants!


53 posted on 04/12/2014 7:20:14 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Sure, celibacy is “disciplinary”, but then, so is …
54 posted on 04/12/2014 7:25:44 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Sure, celibacy is “disciplinary”, but then, so is …

There's dogma, and there's discipline, and the pope and bishops in union are the authentic interpreters of both.

55 posted on 04/12/2014 8:17:26 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I never mentioned dogma. Why did you bring that up?


56 posted on 04/12/2014 8:18:24 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Bishops don’t “interpret” dogma.


57 posted on 04/12/2014 8:29:08 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Bishops in union = Church Council.

In addition to promulgating dogma, they can properly interpret dogma, or make it more clear or comprehensible.

58 posted on 04/12/2014 8:39:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ebb tide
I never mentioned dogma. Why did you bring that up?

Your comments suggest that you think disciplines can't change. Disciplines can change and have changed. Dogmas can't.

59 posted on 04/12/2014 8:41:53 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I suggested no such thing. Holy Communion in the hand while on the hoof is a discipline, it’s obvious that disciplines have changed tremendously since VC II.


60 posted on 04/12/2014 8:49:20 AM PDT by ebb tide
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