Posted on 04/20/2014 12:50:38 PM PDT by Gamecock
Can’t back up your accusations?
If you really are connected to the holy spirit, then it takes authority over all...period. Then it reveals truth from scripture, but only because IT reveals that within. Therefore, the scriptures become a joy, not a need...at that point.
It is the very title of this post that demonstrates how very lost the church is.
For them there is only one church
For us plenty.... more or less
Baring the metaphorical....which any true acceptor is a member of
I’m southern baptist but hardly exclusive
Assembly of God....PCA....MoSynod.....some Southern Methodist
Texas/TN Church of Christ
And so forth are OK with me
Exactly.
Could you please explain how the Holy Spirit managed to lead you to a different conclusion regarding the various passages?
I going to take a wild guess that you disagree with Luther, who continued to believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary....
Sure I could. I already wrote it out too, for the most part.
A blow-by-blow, comment-by-comment reexamination of the conversation (doesn't everyone just love those tedious things?).
But there is no need to post it here on this thread, for the evidence is all here, written in black and white, not very far away, for any who cared enough to go search for it, though it is a thing not without a certain amount of complexity and subtlety.
Other than yourself and myself -- who would care? Certainly we both know what did occur, and both know the real truth of that small matter.
Now --is there anything else I said in that just previous longer note of explanation which needs further expansion?
Is there anything there which you understand? Is there any ground for agreement whatsoever?
Perhaps even if you do not much agree, it may be possible that you could at least now better understand the reasons why I write on the issues which I do.
But I will add here a word of caution; do not mistake kindness for weakness.
Just one example to support your accusation would do.
What are you referring to as “fighting words continually directed straight towards my person unceasingly.”?
I'm not buying the innocent act -- go sell it to somebody else.
It’s a simple and justified request. You made a serious accusation against me. You are, apparently, unwilling or unable to support it.
Then, after all of that -- the fishing expedition which followed (including open speculation on your part to others as to myself, with that coming across as half-way accusation and/or innuendo) as part of your continuing efforts to search out personal information as to myself --- with no mentions whatsoever of any other issues raised (for what reason should we wonder?) with that coming as it did, becoming itself as yet more fighting words after having initially misconstrued my own words --- and the focus is still STUCK on this side-issue of personality conflict to the exclusion of all else.
We both know how this all occurred, better than anyone else. Who are you trying to kid? Those who by just taking cursory glance at the conversation won't see it?
Which is why I'm not buying any "innocent" act. I was here, and I was the target, with yourself chiming in with the moderator's comments too, in effort to strike at me personally (though having your own #110 comment deleted -- because it was too personal - but I saw that one too).
Then you wrote that your comments were "personal" towards myself if my criticism of the RCC included you? How does that sort of nonsense work? But that too, came across to me as just part of the same game I was seeing you play previously, with it all bundling into becoming fighting words -- for it was the relentless tempting to make the thread "all about" persons rather than actual issues -- which the only time you touched --was to take my words out of wider context of our conversation in order to deflect conversation away from those issues.
It is the relentless tempting which now galls.
And here we are. Still at the same thing, for you will not accept any responsibility for it all.
Go ahead. "Feel" as justified as you wish. Just don't ask me to agree with you.
All along in this process, any and every other consideration of any substance has been fully ignored, which in this context becomes part of a passive-aggressive portion well blended in with all the rest of your ceaseless demand for answers and information.
Now that you know what elements to look for -- go find them yourself, for you would know better than anyone your own heart's intent(?)
In the time it took to compose your last two replies, you could have cited many instances of "fighting words continually directed straight towards my person unceasingly.” You give none.
I can only conclude that it's not effort that prevents your doing so; but, that you have none. If I'm in error here and you do, you can quickly and easily present them.
First you need to address my valid point of the spirit within showing us...what the heck do you think wrote those scriptures!? The problem with so much of Christianity today is that it has left spirituality and has become a worship of the bible, with no deal attachment to the writer of that bible.
Who are you trying to convince?
I explained how it went.
As I also made note of, as it began it was a thing of some complexity & subtlety (which makes it difficult to dig out and point at simply) along with one comment of your own which showed particular aspect of your own mind and intents --which was deleted.
Ye still there is an underlying pattern, with this continuance itself a part of it all as far as I can tell --as deflection away from all else which I have said (there being no mention of those other aspects much besides to misconstrue one portion when superficially possible to do so) coupled with what appears to me to be continuing open attempt to in whichever way possible bring discredit upon myself.
Is that so others won't listen when I bring truthful evidence that seriously would rock the Romish boats?
Again, it's not my fault that "Rome" misrepresents itself.
Imagine how difficult it is for one to not assume that deflection away from that particular central concept be much the major thrust of this continuance of conversation in regards to this personality conflict side-bar. We both us know what has transpired here. Or at least I do.
I have to assume you do also, or else assume something negative concerning your own intellectual abilities, which I cannot do for to do so would be contrary to much else plainly enough in evidence.
NO....First you have to address how there could possibly be so much division and diversity of interpretation if we are each lead by the same Holy Spirit?
Lots of effort in your post again.
It’s really simple: post one example to support your accusation.
Can you?
If you want to withdraw your accusation and continue the debate, that might be a good idea now.
Most are not! How do you know? That is the question...be still and know that I am God...says the bible. That means not caught up in the intellectual thought word, then God reveals in a wordless way. Just how do you know if I steal something from you that it is wrong and ungodly? You know intuitively. Same exact thing with all truth. God made it simple, or we would never Him. Intellectualizing the bible is not it!
In other words, Protestant FReepers attack Catholicism from the Right while Catholic FReepers attack Protestantism from the Left. And you're happy with this?
Your feelings do not concern me.
From your posts and those of your co-religionists it is obvious to all that no Catholic anywhere gives a fig what any rural American redneck thinks about anything. So much for being "universal."
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