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Pope: Half-hearted Catholics aren't really Catholics at all
cns ^ | June 5, 2014 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 06/06/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
If you doubt the Perpetual Virginity of the Blessed Mother, you have apostatized from the Catholic faith
21 posted on 06/06/2014 12:31:51 PM PDT by ebb tide (Some "catholics" don't even realize they're protestants. They have both feet outside the door.)
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To: dartuser

Protesrants were not mentioned so why do you bring it up? It is about Catholics.


22 posted on 06/06/2014 12:32:21 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Dick Vomer
I pray that God forgives me and finds me worthy to somehow join him but the RC isn't really anything special to me other than a place where I am familiar with the ceremony but have become disillusioned by what I perceive as the changes in the church and doctrine.
When you were a Catholic, and not fallen away, did you believe the Eucharist was the Body of Christ? If so, why would you leave Him at the altar? We were told (by a couple of saintly priests) that if the priest says the right words at the Consecration, the Eucharist is Real. And that we weren't supposed to take it upon ourselves to think any differently. So if you wish for God to forgive you, why not partake in His Son; a gift [to you from Him] beyond all measure.
23 posted on 06/06/2014 12:33:18 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: NYer

Perhaps they can be called “CINOs” — Christians in name only?


24 posted on 06/06/2014 12:35:36 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom
Those who insist others pray and believe exactly like they do

Good thing there are no FRoman Catholics who do this! </sarc>

25 posted on 06/06/2014 12:36:01 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: NYer

“Pope: Half-hearted Catholics aren’t really Catholics at all”

Sorry el pepe. I’ve been assured by Roman Catholics on FR that every catholic, as long as they go through the ritual baptism and confirmation are always indelibly roman catholic.

He is new at the whole pope thingy.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus)
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To: OpusatFR; dartuser

Just haters chiming in.


27 posted on 06/06/2014 12:36:44 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: ebb tide

It is not a question of what I believe. It is a question of what is written. May I refer to Mark 3:31

“Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone to call him. A crowd was sitting around him, and the told him, Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”


28 posted on 06/06/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: NYer

“Because neither Hebrew nor Aramaic (the language spoken by Christ and his disciples) had a special word meaning “cousin,” speakers of those languages could use either the word for “brother” or a circumlocution, such as “the son of my uncle.” “

But Greek does have words for brother, cousin, uncle and aunt. God chose to inspire the use of the Greek word for brothers. Take it up with Him.

“Mary was and remained a virgin. “

No Biblical evidence that this was true.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Well, thank you. That’s nice. But the fact is that Pope Benedict’s Summorum Pontificum (2007) wouldn’t have been necessary but for the fact that most of the bishops worldwide were not supportive of those who preferred the TLM. And the resistance that it received and continues to receives shows which side has the upper hand in this debate. The demand for uniformity is not coming from the supporters of Summorum Pontificum but rather its opponents. And I’m not talking about lay people like you, but rather people with actual power over these issues (i.e., modernist bishops).


30 posted on 06/06/2014 12:39:45 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
No Biblical evidence that this was true.

No Biblical evidence that Mary had any other children (nobody else is called a son or daughter of Mary), and positive evidence that she didn't (Jesus on the cross giving her to John, which would have been a sin if she had any other living children).

31 posted on 06/06/2014 12:43:27 PM PDT by Campion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Exactly. The Bible only mentions Mary being a virgin at the time of Jesus’s conception. That’s it. Period.

And I also know some Catholics who also think that Mary herself was conceived of an immaculate conception, although there is no mention of this anywhere in the Bible that I can find.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 12:45:59 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: The Iceman Cometh

When will protestants start telling pro-homo “marriage” and baby killer Obummer to quit calling himself a protestant?


33 posted on 06/06/2014 12:50:18 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: NYer

Too bad the Pope doesn’t specifically denounce American phony pols who claim to be Catholic yet support abortion (over 40 million since Roe V Wade) and homo marriages. Yet they’ll come and kiss his ring for publicity and receive the Holy Eucharist.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 12:51:42 PM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: mlizzy
So if you wish for God to forgive you, why not partake in His Son; a gift [to you from Him] beyond all measure.

I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe that he gave his life for my sins and that he acted as an example of faith for all of us. I believe that I can never and in any way "earn" my way to heaven but only by his looking at my lying sinful evil soul have mercy on me and just maybe, maybe get into the kingdom of heaven.

I would never put down or belittle anyone that finds comfort in the current church. I, as a prideful hypocrite, will only eat so much sh#t in the form of the Catholic heirarchy and know that I should just walk away and I have done it. What is odd is that my kids have gone to church with me and are thinking of converting to Catholocism. I encourage them to follow their inner voice that draws them to the church. God bless them and I hope that they and you all find peace, I however am jaded, cynical, prideful and in spite of my mask not a very good or nice person except to my family.

I pray that I haven't burned my bridge to the Lord by leaving the church but I really am lazy and find fighting the urge to tell the priest to just speak his word, give me some guidance and pray for my sould instead of carrying on a musical production and spouting off about political cr#p make it hard for me to go.

I've gone back every several months but the same sense of just disappointment and unease fill me. It's a "me" problem and not the church's problem. I'm the one that has to change....the church is what it is. I can not demand it change anymore than I can stand at a shoreline and yell at the waves for crashing into the beach.

Peace, brother.

35 posted on 06/06/2014 12:56:27 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I don't give a hoot about your YOPIUS. These are the four Marian Dogmas.

The Four Marian Dogmas

Any Catholic who denies Church dogma has aposostasized.

Adios

36 posted on 06/06/2014 1:00:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (Some "catholics" don't even realize they're protestants. They have both feet outside the door.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

That’s a second Marian dogma you have denied/questioned.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 1:03:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (Some "catholics" don't even realize they're protestants. They have both feet outside the door.)
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To: ebb tide

You sound just like the type of person the Pope was talking about in the above article.

Nearly all we know about Mary comes from the New Testament. I’ll stick with that if it’s OK with you.

We shouldn’t be making things up.


38 posted on 06/06/2014 1:05:33 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

You could also ask “if Yashua spoke Aramaic why is the service in Latin?”


39 posted on 06/06/2014 1:08:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Between your denial of Catholic Church dogma and your screen name, you sound just like Bowe Bergdahl.

Do you think Popes make things up when they proclaim dogmas of the Catholic Church?


40 posted on 06/06/2014 1:09:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (Some "catholics" don't even realize they're protestants. They have both feet outside the door.)
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