500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary

Catholic Analysis ^ | 7 June 2014 | Philipp Rogall

[Elsie]

I will pray for you.

We ALL need prayer!

To WHOM will you pray?

[Elsie]

Yeah, but did she make it rain??? ;o)<>Of course!

Who ELSE has that power??

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[Elsie]

[Elsie]

[Elsie]

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 Logical fallacies hide the truth, so pointing them out is very useful.

7. Cause and Effect - Assuming that the effect is related to a cause because the events occur together.
Example: When the rooster crows, the sun rises. Therefore, the rooster causes the sun to rise.
Example: When the fuel light goes on in my car, I soon run out of gas. Therefore, the fuel light causes my car to run out of gas.

[Elsie]

As far personal or flippant, I was making a kind generous offer of my talents to those that might not posses the same skills I have.

At least you are humble enough to leave out arrogant.

[Elsie]

Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:

And Sari said to Abram: Take my servant to WIFE.

Genesis 30:9

When Leah saw that she had stopped having children, she took her servant Zilpah and gave her to Jacob as a wife.

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Since Mary was to be a PERPETUAL Virgin (and Blessed at that) why didn't SHE get a handmaiden for her OBVIOUSLY frustrated husband?

[Elsie]

WE interrupt this program to bring you the latest news about the number of angels dancing on a pinhead!

[ealgeone]

if you reject the term “Mother of God” what exactly do you call Mary? The mother of His human nature? Then did she bear only His human nature? What happened to His divine nature?

The mother of Jesus as the writers of the Gospel did and as moved by the Holy Spirit.

[af_vet_1981]

I've already explained plenty of times that there ARE real, physical, genuine churches (your Catechism calls them "eccesliastical communities") that CONTAIN those that are members of Christ's body.

not sure I understand you; are you claiming these are bona fide churches or only that there are separated brethren there who belong to the one holy catholic apostolic church ? if the former, can you take a stab at identifying which of the thousands (start with mainline) are inside and outside your model ?

[ealgeone]

if you reject the term “Mother of God”

using your logic, would you say the Holy Spirit is the father of God as it was the Holy Spirit who impregnated Mary?

of course you wouldn't.

and to assign a title to Mary not used in the Bible is wrong as well.

[Hoodat]

500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary

Actually, it is the 600th anniversary of Protestantism. And it was brought about because of the chaos of the Catholic Church. Popes, anti-popes, . . . who could keep up?

[Lx]

Look up pedant.

[Lx]

Mary always directs everything back to her Son, Jesus, truly human and truly divine.

I suggest that you not do that. What would Jesus say to you about how you treated his mother at the moment of your death?

Mary is directing that very same thing.

[Lx]

Not Bible idolatry again? LOL!

So reading and believing the Bible is idolatry huh? Mary idolatry is cool though?

Where did I say that?

Do you read the Bible?

Daily and unlike you, I comprehend it.

You know, there might be a Sylvan learning center near you. I suggest you look into it as your reading comprehension score is lower than Odingas.

[Tao Yin]

The Holy Spirit clarifies who Mary is quite nicely.

Just as the term Trinity isn't in the Bible, neither is the term Theotokos, which means God-bearer. Both of these terms were uses to clarify theology and guard against heresy.

Theotokos, which has the more colorful translation "Mother of God" which I dislike, is a statement about Jesus more than a description of Mary. The heresy that prompted the statements regarding Theotokos is interesting reading.

Even though I am not Catholic, I do consider myself catholic. If you've ever proclaimed the Athanasian Creed, you've given a far better refutation to the heresy that the term Theotokos, which is a catholic term.

[af_vet_1981]

and to assign a title to Mary not used in the Bible is wrong as well.

Mary is the mother of Emmanuel, which the Holy Spirit through the Apostles interprets as God with us. It is right there in the Bible. She is the mother of God with us. If, at least, you believe Sola Scriptural, believe it or stop troubling those who do believe the Scriptures.

[LurkingSince'98]

Theotokos is an ancient Eastern Rite name that is enthusiastically embraced by all Catholics.

AMDG

[Tao Yin]

Theotokos is an ancient Eastern Rite name that is enthusiastically embraced by all Catholics.

I do embrace Theotokos (God-bearer). I dislike the poor translation of "Mother of God". Rationalization aside that someone who bears a child is the mother of that child. The poor translation starts with the mother while the appropriate translation starts with God. Regardless of the translation, the term is important because of what it signifies about Jesus, not about his mother.

[ealgeone]

and to assign a title to Mary not used in the Bible is wrong as well. Mary is the mother of Emmanuel, which the Holy Spirit through the Apostles interprets as God with us. It is right there in the Bible. She is the mother of God with us. If, at least, you believe Sola Scriptural, believe it or stop troubling those who do believe the Scriptures.

would you call the Holy Spirit the father of God in that case as the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary?