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Presbyterian Assembly (PCUSA): Gay Marriage Is Christian (Ministers Can Do Homosexual Weddings)
ABC ^ | Jun 19, 2014 | KAROUB AND RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 06/19/2014 2:32:45 PM PDT by xzins

The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) voted Thursday to redefine Christian marriage in the church constitution as the union of "two people" instead of only "a man and a woman."

The amendment requires approval from a majority of the 172 regional presbyteries, which will vote on the change over the next year. But in a separate vote that will take effect immediately, the Presbyterian General Assembly allowed ministers to preside at gay weddings in states where gay marriage is legal. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia recognize same-sex marriage.

Alex McNeill, executive director of More Light Presbyterians, a gay advocacy group, said the decisions Thursday were "an answer to many prayers" of same-sex couples.

The conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee decried the votes in Detroit as an "abomination."

"The General Assembly has committed an express repudiation of the Bible, the mutually agreed upon Confessions of the PCUSA, thousands of years of faithfulness to God's clear commands and the denominational ordination vows of each concurring commissioner," the committee said in a statement.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: calvinism; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda; laycommittee; lesbyterian; morelight; paganchurchusa; pcusa; presbyterian; reformation; reformed; religiousleft
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1 posted on 06/19/2014 2:32:45 PM PDT by xzins
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My own United Methodist Church continues to fight Jezebel and Thyatira....here’s hoping there’s a split.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 2:33:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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We are at the “Joshua and Golden Calf” moment.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 2:37:12 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: xzins

Well, watch their attendance plummet.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 2:38:21 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Vigilanteman

Aaron was no great help at the golden calf moment. What did he say, something like “we threw all this gold in the fire and look what came out.”


5 posted on 06/19/2014 2:39:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Lysandru

My United Methdist Church has gone from about 15 million to 7.5 million just for arguing over this stuff. They yearn for irrelevance.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 2:41:05 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Any church accepting Homo marriage should be left immediately. those that remain are the problem and should be treated accordingly. It really is that simple.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 2:41:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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What part of the term “abomination” don’t Presbyterians understand?


8 posted on 06/19/2014 2:43:10 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree with you.

If they can’t see the difference between a man + woman and a man+man, then they have left the Creator.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 2:43:43 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

John Knox is spinning in his grave.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 2:45:03 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Time to split. Vomit-worthy


11 posted on 06/19/2014 2:45:09 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Yup. It’s binary. there is no other correct answer.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 2:45:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To me it looks more like “Here be your gods!” moment when Israel and Judah split. Many people in the Northern Kingdom moved into Judah.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 2:45:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: xzins

Close friends of mine just left the UMC. They are both roughly 50 and had been lifelong Methodists, but they said they could no longer subject their children to what was being taught in their church. Most Methodists I know seem much more conservative and traditional than their leaders. I’m not sure if that’s as true everywhere as it is in Tennessee and Mississippi.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 2:47:45 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: txrefugee

It’s the PCUSA, but my sense is that they simply cannot be believers in Jesus Christ. They believe their job is to perpetuate the ‘myth of Jesus’ as an incentive for groups to work in soup lines and so others can give them a salary for running community activities and weekly poetry readings.


15 posted on 06/19/2014 2:48:02 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

There are some truly bad Methodist churches, and some of them are in Tennessee, although Tennessee tends to be better on average than other places.

I really hope to hold the line against the pro-homosexuality group again in 2016, and the frustrated sexually promiscuous crowd cause a church split.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 2:50:42 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Good point. I would welcome a split myself.


17 posted on 06/19/2014 2:52:16 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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It is total amazing that it took Christian theologians/ministers a couple thousand years to discover that same sex marriage is a good and proper thing. I guess it took the help of heathens to get them to see the light.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 2:53:19 PM PDT by all the best
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“...the Presbyterian General Assembly allowed ministers to preside at gay weddings in states where gay marriage is legal... Alex McNeill, executive director of More Light Presbyterians, a gay advocacy group, said the decisions Thursday were “an answer to many prayers” of same-sex couples.”

Except the gays members that live in states where it isn’t legally recognized. Imagine belonging to a religious group that believes that indeed you can be married, but only if the state you are in first agrees. I would think that is pretty lame.

Freegards


19 posted on 06/19/2014 2:54:51 PM PDT by Ransomed
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And pretty much only in irrelevant mainline western Christianity.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 2:56:16 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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